Taggart and losing culture.....

[puc86]

2 minutes ago, DELdaBull said:

When we fire Strong at the end of this season he will most likely have a winning record with us. That does not mean we fired a good coach. 

This would be more pertinent if anyone was advocating for firing CWT. The argument isn't should CWT be fired or did he have a bad season, it's was he a great coach and did he finish rebuilding the team because he had one good season. CCS was able to do well with Flowers as well, what was CWTs full cupboard solution to replacing Flowers following the next season? Can CWT sustain success and is that an important component to being a good coach? 

[BDYZR]

2 minutes ago, puc86 said:

There argument is its not fair to measure him that way. It seems the only fair way to measure him is in the last season he was at a program before he moved on. Seems like a reasonable way to measure everyone, except when it isn't or doesn't fit your narrative. Overall record is only a fair way to measure every other coach but CWT is special because he is the only self appointed rebuild specialist. 

I believe the narrative was "building." Not the first year he walked in. 

 

6 minutes ago, puc86 said:

It means they aren't particularly good at #finishingstrong which at some point people are going to want to see you do before they call you good at your job. Starting things and not finishing them is not typically seen as a great skill, and if you always stop at the only point where you did well as you stumbled and bumbled thru failure longer than the period you were successful for people may reasonably question just how overall good you are or if you are just capable of some waves of good with long doldrums of bad and your best skill may just be knowing the right time to bail. 

Mostly inaccurate. Most of the time they have taken the project to a point where their skills are better served on another project. Sometimes with the same company, sometimes another company says, "You did a great job getting that project to that point. Come work with us and lead our crew as you did over there." IF any one of them were incapable, or lacked any part of the needed skill set, they would be out of a career.

[puc86]

Just now, BDYZR said:

I believe the narrative was "building." Not the first year he walked in. 

 

Mostly inaccurate. Most of the time they have taken the project to a point where their skills are better served on another project. Sometimes with the same company, sometimes another company says, "You did a great job getting that project to that point. Come work with us and lead our crew as you did over there." IF any one of them were incapable, or lacked any part of the needed skill set, they would be out of a career.

I completely agree he seemed to be building in the right direction, I only question if it was built and if it is a foregone conclusion that he would have successfully finished rebuilding had he not bolted. I didn’t want to see him go and I wouldn’t call his time here an overall failure or an overall success I think he was trending in the right direction but he should be graded as an incomplete. Sadly we will never know what he would have done here but his first attempt at building sustainability in a situation that wasn’t at complete rock bottom certainly doesn’t look great.

[WoDoS]

Don't know if this has been posted before, if so admin can delete.. Just a view through not green and gold glasses..

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20190905/anderson-how-manatee-school-district-hurt-fsu-football

 

[BDYZR]

5 minutes ago, WoDoS said:

Don't know if this has been posted before, if so admin can delete.. Just a view through not green and gold glasses..

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20190905/anderson-how-manatee-school-district-hurt-fsu-football

 

and if a frog had wings...

[puc86]

7 minutes ago, WoDoS said:

Don't know if this has been posted before, if so admin can delete.. Just a view through not green and gold glasses..

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20190905/anderson-how-manatee-school-district-hurt-fsu-football

 

It has been posted before but that doesn't mean it needs to be deleted out of my 6800 posts I would be shocked if I have said more than 10 things. 

[bullsbucsfan426]

13 minutes ago, WoDoS said:

Don't know if this has been posted before, if so admin can delete.. Just a view through not green and gold glasses..

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20190905/anderson-how-manatee-school-district-hurt-fsu-football

 

Not sure if that's an FSU writer, but if so, the butthurt is hilarious. 

[puc86]

Lets take a look at the curious case of Larry Coker's tenure at Miami. If we look at the first three seasons he seems like a world beater, even the first five he seems fine and still in a job then the bottom falls out and he is fired. Even CJL had a blip in his record that he then corrected. CWT can take on a job where he can only do better (still manage to find a way to do worse most of the time) and then when he finally does better than rock bottom he bounces, maybe he can finish a rebuild, maybe he can sustain success but there is as much reason to question that as there is to believe he will be successful. 

[WoDoS]

16 minutes ago, bullsbucsfan426 said:

Not sure if that's an FSU writer, but if so, the butthurt is hilarious. 

Not sure either.. It is bad you have to blame a high school for a colleges hire of a coach, that you feel is not up to snuff.. 

Edited September 11, 2019 by WoDoS

[CousinRicky]

54 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

I believe the narrative was "building." Not the first year he walked in. 

 

Mostly inaccurate. Most of the time they have taken the project to a point where their skills are better served on another project. Sometimes with the same company, sometimes another company says, "You did a great job getting that project to that point. Come work with us and lead our crew as you did over there." IF any one of them were incapable, or lacked any part of the needed skill set, they would be out of a career.

So if Taggart fails at FSU (and we don't know that yet) what conclusion would you draw?  That the last stop he was at he got fired and he was a bad coach?  Or do you point back to the rebuilding he's done at other stops, and like people claim re: FCSH, that he was in over his head?  He can coach at that lowest levels and be fine?  He, like Strong with Bridgewater, caught lightning in a bottle with Flowers?  

Hard to say at this point in his career but he does have a below .500 record.  30 years from now, unless he wins a national title, people will look at his overall record.  To be continued.

Edited September 11, 2019 by CousinRicky