BrassBulls12 Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I think he needs to go out a get a dedicated pitching coach. I don't think he has done well juggling both hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,509 Reputation: 10,798 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Brad said: FWIW, my comment was not about Mohl, but this idea coaches need some number of years before evaluation, in this case three. I think evaluations start immediately and so too should actions that should result from that evaluation. We kept Antigua WAYYYYYYYY too long. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. If evaluations start immediately, CWT should have been fired before getting on the bus back after McCheese State. I just don't think programs like ours can afford to have knee jerk reactions, relatively speaking, when it comes to head coaches. Three years seems reasonable unless faced with something like Antigua, where it needs to be cut a little short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I would have unregrettably fired Taggart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Brad said: I would have unregrettably fired Taggart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted May 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, Brad said: I would have unregrettably fired Taggart. The best recruiter in USF sports history?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted May 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, JTrue said: The best recruiter in USF sports history?!? As head coach? Yes. Without a doubt. Not sure I’d give him “best recruiter” status among all sports, but that was his strength, short term, in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Brad said: As head coach? Yes. Without a doubt. Not sure I’d give him “best recruiter” status among all sports, but that was his strength, short term, in football. Would you base this on recruiting site rankings or players who reached the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 19, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted May 19, 2019 My own eyeballs and judgment. Recruiting sites? NFL is a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,457 Reputation: 1,130 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Let me ask you all a question. Let's say we hire a head coach, and their record over their first three seasons are the following: 4-24 14-13 7-20 First year the coach is coaching the previous coach's players, and the 4-24 is excused. Year two, big turnaround, 14-13, looking good. Year three, all the new coach's players now, 7-20. We all agree, fire that coach, right? Guess, what, the coach in the above example didn't get fired. Over the next 16 seasons he took his team to the postseason 15 times, the only 15 postseason trips in USF's history in that sport. Our program deserves consistency, our student athletes deserve consistency. Do I want to win, YES. But, we have to give people a chance to win. I will say it again, every coach deserves 4 years, unless they are breaking rules, doing morally questionable things or hurting student athletes (physical, emotional, academically). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said: Let me ask you all a question. Let's say we hire a head coach, and their record over their first three seasons are the following: 4-24 14-13 7-20 First year the coach is coaching the previous coach's players, and the 4-24 is excused. Year two, big turnaround, 14-13, looking good. Year three, all the new coach's players now, 7-20. We all agree, fire that coach, right? Guess, what, the coach in the above example didn't get fired. Over the next 16 seasons he took his team to the postseason 15 times, the only 15 postseason trips in USF's history in that sport. Our program deserves consistency, our student athletes deserve consistency. Do I want to win, YES. But, we have to give people a chance to win. I will say it again, every coach deserves 4 years, unless they are breaking rules, doing morally questionable things or hurting student athletes (physical, emotional, academically). Four year rule works great for Olympic sports but no way can you use it for football. Three bad year and you have to go...too much riding on that sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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