BullyPulpit Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: I'm pretty sure the reason is simple. It worked for both teams, filled a hole for both teams and met the needs of both teams. The in your face UCF was just a bonus, but funny. Not sure UF is helping us play 3-dimensional chess in regards to an OCS and RJS leasing. I could buy that if there was a clear reason for moving the game, but this was a series that was announced just before the start of the season and then quickly moved. UF is interested in playing a game at Ray Jay, and definitely not at a brand new OCS at USF. By moving the game up to 2021 it filled a gap in UF's schedule and guaranteed that the game would be played at Ray Jay. Again, I'm not saying that an OCS is imminent, but this move likely gave us the flexibility to keep it as a possibility leading up to December 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Maybe USF will have an OCS by 2123 certainly not 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBulls727 Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 62 Content Count: 2,286 Reputation: 495 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/26/2013 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: Maybe USF will have an OCS by 2123 certainly not 2023 We won't be able to afford to fire Strong before 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,455 Reputation: 1,127 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted January 3, 2019 While I love the investigation and theories, Ray Jay has nothing to do with it. One of the schools either had an unexpected open date they needed to fill, or a chance to have another game on a day we previously scheduled the game, so that AD called the other AD and said, hey, any chance we can change a date of the series with no penalty to either team. The other AD, wanting to keep the relationship strong, looked at their schedule and realized the changed either made no difference to them, or was also a positive for them, and agreed. (Plus, UF got to stick it to UCF by getting the series with USF back in the news) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted January 3, 2019 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,748 Content Count: 17,448 Reputation: 1,217 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, USFBulls727 said: We won't be able to afford to fire Strong before 2023 Will he still be here in 2123? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said: While I love the investigation and theories, Ray Jay has nothing to do with it. One of the schools either had an unexpected open date they needed to fill, or a chance to have another game on a day we previously scheduled the game, so that AD called the other AD and said, hey, any chance we can change a date of the series with no penalty to either team. The other AD, wanting to keep the relationship strong, looked at their schedule and realized the changed either made no difference to them, or was also a positive for them, and agreed. (Plus, UF got to stick it to UCF by getting the series with USF back in the news) That's another plausible theory as well. I would counter that by saying that nothing changed for either team from a scheduling perspective from the time the series was originally announced until the change was made. Now, there may be something behind the scenes that we are unaware of, but we still don't have a solid explanation for pushing the USF home game up 2 years. Maybe we were working on a series with a team for a home game in 2021 and that fell through. That is also possible as well, but we don't know. Maybe Cousin Ricky can ask VPoA Kelly and get a concrete answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted January 3, 2019 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,669 Reputation: 5,811 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said: That's another plausible theory as well. I would counter that by saying that nothing changed for either team from a scheduling perspective from the time the series was originally announced until the change was made. Now, there may be something behind the scenes that we are unaware of, but we still don't have a solid explanation for pushing the USF home game up 2 years. Maybe we were working on a series with a team for a home game in 2021 and that fell through. That is also possible as well, but we don't know. Maybe Cousin Ricky can ask VPoA Kelly and get a concrete answer. Or you could write him an email and ask. There is little chance when I see him that I would remember to ask. Hell, I go to the store for 3 things and can't remember 1 or 2 of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBulls727 Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 62 Content Count: 2,286 Reputation: 495 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/26/2013 Share Posted January 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said: Will he still be here in 2123? Probably not. I was exaggerating the point that we are broke, and that there's zero chance that an OCS will be built by then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said: While I love the investigation and theories, Ray Jay has nothing to do with it. One of the schools either had an unexpected open date they needed to fill, or a chance to have another game on a day we previously scheduled the game, so that AD called the other AD and said, hey, any chance we can change a date of the series with no penalty to either team. The other AD, wanting to keep the relationship strong, looked at their schedule and realized the changed either made no difference to them, or was also a positive for them, and agreed. (Plus, UF got to stick it to UCF by getting the series with USF back in the news) 2 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said: That's another plausible theory as well. I would counter that by saying that nothing changed for either team from a scheduling perspective from the time the series was originally announced until the change was made. Now, there may be something behind the scenes that we are unaware of, but we still don't have a solid explanation for pushing the USF home game up 2 years. Maybe we were working on a series with a team for a home game in 2021 and that fell through. That is also possible as well, but we don't know. Maybe Cousin Ricky can ask VPoA Kelly and get a concrete answer. Given the power imbalance I'd suspect UF had reason to change it and it was an easy accommodation for us to do and keep a strong relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted January 3, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,455 Reputation: 1,127 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: Given the power imbalance I'd suspect UF had reason to change it and it was an easy accommodation for us to do and keep a strong relationship. A very logical opinion and a very good chance it is correct, but if we wanted a change, we certainly would have asked, and they may have looked and realized the change was good for them too, and agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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