cophbulls Posted December 3, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 3,175 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 12 Joined: 08/30/2004 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just for funzies and because, again, I am a giant data nerd. Using total wins as a proxy for fan interest (WinsT1+WinsT2), current Sagarin scores as a proxy for total team strength (SagScoreT1+SagScoreT2, higher is better), and the absolute value of the difference between the two scores as a proxy for the variation of strength between the two teams (ABS(SagScoreT1-SagScoreT2) lower is better) and then ranking the three measures and then summing the ranks (lower is better) I came up with a somewhat objective emotionless value to rank the bowl games. Interestingly UCF's game should, according to this theoretical model, garner the most interest. 3rd in combined wins, 7th in total team strength and 6th in comparative difference between the teams. The Gasparilla Bowl landed right in the middle, the most interesting is that the combined strength of the two teams is 36th out of the 39 bowls but the difference between the two teams was small enough that it should be a fairly competitive game, and thus, interesting game. https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ Rank Combined Wins Sum Sagarin Score Diff Sagarain Score Rank Combined Wins Rank Sum Sagarin Score Rank Diff Sagarain Score Sum Rank Score 1 Fiesta Bowl 21 167.7 1.34 3 7 6 16 2 Rose Bowl 20 179.7 5.02 4.5 3 20 27.5 3 Gator Bowl 17 164.16 2.32 15.5 9 10 34.5 4 Tampa Bowl 16 173.33 1.95 20 6 9 35 5 Cotton Bowl 24 188.72 11.74 1 2 38 41 6 Orange Bowl 23 193.82 12.44 2 1 39 42 7 Dollar Bowl 19 133.4 0.78 7 31 4.5 42.5 8 Armed Forces Bowl 18 144.79 1.59 11 26 7 44 9 Sugar Bowl 20 175.12 10.88 4.5 4 36.5 45 10 First Responder Bowl 17 155.64 2.38 15.5 19 11 45.5 11 Santa Clara Bowl 15 156.66 0.64 26 17 3 46 12 Peach Bowl 19 174.62 8.66 7 5 34 46 13 Citrus Bowl 18 166.81 7.41 11 8 30 49 14 Orlando Bowl 18 163.21 7.35 11 10 29 50 15 Boca Raton Bowl 16 134.38 0.22 20 30 2 52 16 Las Vegas Bowl 17 158.44 5.4 15.5 16 21 52.5 17 Holiday Bowl 17 160.77 6.45 15.5 12 25 52.5 18 Alamo Bowl 18 159.97 7.17 11 14 28 53 19 Camellia Bowl 16 130.52 0.1 20 34 1 55 20 Pinstripe Bowl 14 158.94 3.1 32 15 15 62 21 Gasparilla Bowl 16 128.32 1.72 20 36 8 64 22 Arizona Bowl 15 130.36 0.78 26 35 4.5 65.5 23 Independence Bowl 15 146.85 3.31 26 24 16 66 24 Military Bowl 16 147.89 5.51 20 23 23 66 25 Music City Bowl 13 160.09 4.79 36.5 13 19 68.5 26 Birmingham Bowl 14 145.78 2.44 32 25 12 69 27 Liberty Bowl 14 162.47 7.13 32 11 27 70 28 New Mexico Bowl 19 144.72 10.88 7 27 36.5 70.5 29 Phoenix Bowl 14 148.77 3.35 32 22 17 71 30 Detroit Bowl 13 151.03 2.87 36.5 21 14 71.5 31 New Orleans Bowl 18 141.42 9.94 11 29 35 75 32 Charlotte Bowl 14 152.23 5.93 32 20 24 76 33 Sun Bowl 15 155.94 8.06 26 18 33 77 34 Hawai'i Bowl 15 121.28 2.54 26 39 13 78 35 Texas Bowl 12 143.89 3.55 39 28 18 85 36 Frisco Bowl 15 124.14 6.64 26 37 26 89 37 Bahamas Bowl 15 130.93 7.67 26 33 31 90 38 Cure Bowl 13 124.1 5.46 36.5 38 22 96.5 39 Idaho Bowl 13 131.66 8.02 36.5 32 32 100.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted December 3, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,748 Content Count: 17,453 Reputation: 1,221 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted December 3, 2018 http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ranking-the-2018-bowl-games-1-39-alabama-oklahoma-is-no-1/ar-BBQoAIS?ocid=ientp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cophbulls Posted December 3, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 3,175 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 12 Joined: 08/30/2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ranking-the-2018-bowl-games-1-39-alabama-oklahoma-is-no-1/ar-BBQoAIS?ocid=ientp Subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cophbulls Posted December 3, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 3,175 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 12 Joined: 08/30/2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 And something else, this is USF's 10th bowl appearance.....10th! Feel old yet? Who was there in Charlotte for the first one? I was, with my brother, that New Years Eve was one of the highlights of my life. Crazy downtown, we crashed the hot shots party, there was a soft core porno being, most likely illegally, filmed in the lobby on the bed that the hotel was shilling, riot police had to be broken out a couple of blocks where we were. My brother and I, inebriated, got chairs and just road the elevator up and down, talking with people who would get on and off the elevator, drinking booze, it was crazy, ended up at some party in the hotel somewhere, god that night was epic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted December 3, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,748 Content Count: 17,453 Reputation: 1,221 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I was in Charlotte, with the student Bulls club, we had fun but not nearly as much fun as you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarling Bull Posted December 3, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 6,574 Reputation: 237 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, cophbulls said: And something else, this is USF's 10th bowl appearance.....10th! Feel old yet? Who was there in Charlotte for the first one? I was, with my brother, that New Years Eve was one of the highlights of my life. Crazy downtown, we crashed the hot shots party, there was a soft core porno being, most likely illegally, filmed in the lobby on the bed that the hotel was shilling, riot police had to be broken out a couple of blocks where we were. My brother and I, inebriated, got chairs and just road the elevator up and down, talking with people who would get on and off the elevator, drinking booze, it was crazy, ended up at some party in the hotel somewhere, god that night was epic. We have been at every bowl except the one in Canada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dausfbulls11 Posted December 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 320 Content Count: 3,030 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/15/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Been to everyone except canada also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted December 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 505 Content Count: 3,407 Reputation: 164 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/07/2002 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Missed Sun Bowl and Canada Bowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted December 4, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,324 Reputation: 1,273 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2018 19 hours ago, cophbulls said: And something else, this is USF's 10th bowl appearance.....10th! Feel old yet? Who was there in Charlotte for the first one? I was, with my brother, that New Years Eve was one of the highlights of my life. Crazy downtown, we crashed the hot shots party, there was a soft core porno being, most likely illegally, filmed in the lobby on the bed that the hotel was shilling, riot police had to be broken out a couple of blocks where we were. My brother and I, inebriated, got chairs and just road the elevator up and down, talking with people who would get on and off the elevator, drinking booze, it was crazy, ended up at some party in the hotel somewhere, god that night was epic. What a great night! God, I remember nights like that. Truly, I don't know how I survived. God protects fools and children. Thank God that was 40 years ago. Now, it's back to Mother Nature. Good memories, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cophbulls Posted December 4, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 3,175 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 12 Joined: 08/30/2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Grateful Dad said: What a great night! God, I remember nights like that. Truly, I don't know how I survived. God protects fools and children. Thank God that was 40 years ago. Now, it's back to Mother Nature. Good memories, though. Yeah, I often say I'm living on house time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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