Old Guys Don't Last in Today's Game

[NewEnglandBull]

Defense still wins championships. I would still rather have a defensive minded head coach and innovative OC. We just need to find the later. 

[Calibull]

12 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

Go back and watch the games. Our offense was up tempo, it just tried to run first. We weren’t very good at blocking the run or the pass and tried to run the same play over and over again. He went out and got Gilbert because the Briles inspired offense he ran, ya know, the same one Kendal Briles runs. The problem is that Philliip Montgomery was the person running the offense at Tulsa, not Gilbert and Gilbert isn’t very good at it.  Although if look up articles on Gilbert outside of the TDS, you’re gonna find a lot of articles on how consistently good his offenses are. It’s like the rest of the nation blames our struggles on how young our team was, go figure. I don’t think strong as stuck in his ways as every one assumes. Does he like to keep his defense in good situations? Yes, is he conservative at the end of halves? Yes. But that’s not why we lost 5 games, bad offense was. 

Preach!!!

[Bull Dozer]

1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said:

Go back and watch the games. Our offense was up tempo, it just tried to run first. We weren’t very good at blocking the run or the pass and tried to run the same play over and over again. He went out and got Gilbert because the Briles inspired offense he ran, ya know, the same one Kendal Briles runs. The problem is that Phillip Montgomery was the person running the offense at Tulsa, not Gilbert and Gilbert isn’t very good at it.  Although if look up articles on Gilbert outside of the TDS, you’re gonna find a lot of articles on how consistently good his offenses are. It’s like the rest of the nation blames our struggles on how young our team was, go figure. I don’t think strong as stuck in his ways as every one assumes. Does he like to keep his defense in good situations? Yes, is he conservative at the end of halves? Yes. But that’s not why we lost 5 games, bad offense was. 

This. He's rode Barbers/Montgomery to his job at Texas and here he is. Our pace is actually pretty fast the issue is play calling is vanilla and consistently gets us in 3rd and long and in and shortyardage situation the ball is going to a back inside the tackles. Also because we basically run go routes, comebacks, and WR screens so it makes us so easy to defend in the red zone. DB's don't have to worry about getting beat inside everything is outside and the back line takes the vertical routes away.... The play-calling knee caps the team in almost all key offensive downs and distances and in point scoring situations....

[lotsofbull99]

1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said:

Go back and watch the games. Our offense was up tempo, it just tried to run first. We weren’t very good at blocking the run or the pass and tried to run the same play over and over again. He went out and got Gilbert because the Briles inspired offense he ran, ya know, the same one Kendal Briles runs. The problem is that Phillip Montgomery was the person running the offense at Tulsa, not Gilbert and Gilbert isn’t very good at it.  Although if look up articles on Gilbert outside of the TDS, you’re gonna find a lot of articles on how consistently good his offenses are. It’s like the rest of the nation blames our struggles on how young our team was, go figure. I don’t think strong as stuck in his ways as every one assumes. Does he like to keep his defense in good situations? Yes, is he conservative at the end of halves? Yes. But that’s not why we lost 5 games, bad offense was. 

All roads lead back to Art Briles, his offensive genius is the only thing that can bring USF football back from irrelevancy 

[Ghostbuster]

1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said:

I don’t think strong as stuck in his ways as every one assumes. Does he like to keep his defense in good situations? Yes, is he conservative at the end of halves? Yes. But that’s not why we lost 5 games, bad offense was. 

Conservative coaching alone didn't cause us to lose games, but it's part of it.  

-Conservative playcalling.

-Misuse of players.

-Failure to adjust to things that don't work.

-Poor in game management

-Poor development of players

As for whether he is stuck in his ways....Even at Louisville, in one of his better seasons, he failed to put away an OLeary team after jumping out to a huge lead.  That was several years and teams ago...  I think he's just got an old school mentality that 'once you get a lead, you rely on your defense to shut down a desperate opponent' (who might make mistakes being too aggressive).

That can work but not all the time.  Certainly can't expect it to work when you're playing a team that averages over 30 pts a game like UCF.  You should expect them to score more when they're only at 17 or 24 points.  And don't use the backup QB as an excuse for relying on defense; UCF had played one game this season with their backup and still got their points.  Relying on his "tried and true" defensive minded methodology was a mistake; and he's probably not going to turn a new leaf at 58 with minor staff changes, so I expect that mistake to be repeated in the future.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Ghostbuster

[NewEnglandBull]

One program gets it

[Bausfkid]

College football is irrelevant unless your Alabama, GA, ND, OU, Clemson or Michigan.  

[BrassBulls12]

5 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said:

Conservative playcalling.

-Misuse of players.

-Failure to adjust to things that don't work.

-Poor in game management

-Poor development of players

four of the five things you listed are on Gilbert. The fourth isn't necessarily mismanagement, just no the decision you like. But if those other four things are better, it plays a much lesser role in wins and losses. 

Edited December 1, 2018 by BrassBulls12

[Rocky Style]

11 minutes ago, lotsofbull99 said:

All roads lead back to Art Briles, his offensive genius is the only thing that can bring USF football back from irrelevancy 

Would you bring in Bobby Petrino as OC?  Rick Pitino as strength and conditioning coach?

[Ghostbuster]

5 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

four of the five things you listed are on Gilbert. The fourth isn't necessarily mismanagement, just no the decision you like. But if those other four things are better, it plays a much lesser role in wins and losses. 

I agree up to a point; but I mean when does a head coach take responsibility for what's happening or not happening with the team.

If he's not taking a direct role in helping the coordinators that need help, who will?  And if he is trying to help it's not working.