Dogma Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad said: That's what I find most interesting. Wrong and long gone. Same with hundreds of crybaby members here. Bitched and wanted him gone, 8-9 wins in BCS Big East not good enough for a team that was 10-12 years old. Those members vanished. I always thought he needed more years to catch up (talent/depth) while the program "caught it's breath" from its rapid ascension. But it was that rapid ascension that make people (including influential donors) feel entitled and too demanding with unrealistic expectations. They ripped out the heart, soul and leader of the program without any clear path/goals of where to go from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Chris Fowler: ”this is better than playing it in a giant pro stadium.” Ha, I chuckled at that. Passive aggressive swipe at us? I'm looking forward to potentially messing up C's season in our pro stadium. Anything can happen in rivalry games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Chris Fowler: ”this is better than playing it in a giant pro stadium.” Heard that too. A direct shot at us, especially since in the next breath he mentioned our game next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 96,971 Reputation: 10,799 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dogma said: I always thought he needed more years to catch up (talent/depth) while the program "caught it's breath" from its rapid ascension. But it was that rapid ascension that make people (including influential donors) feel entitled and too demanding with unrealistic expectations. They ripped out the heart, soul and leader of the program without any clear path/goals of where to go from there. Complete, except you left out the part about the pure hubris on behalf of Doug and Judy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brad said: Complete, except you left out the part about the pure hubris on behalf of Doug and Judy. Judy, for all of her going to athletic events, is still not really a supporter of FB. Sure, she does some things but she is not all in lijecsome presidents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned A Starr RIP Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 3,497 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 9 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted November 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, Brad said: That's what I find most interesting. Wrong and long gone. Same with hundreds of crybaby members here. Bitched and wanted him gone, 8-9 wins in BCS Big East not good enough for a team that was 10-12 years old. Those members vanished. When did USF win 8-9 conference games? OOC wins mean diddly squat if you don’t win your conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, NAS Gone to Paradise said: When did USF win 8-9 conference games? OOC wins mean diddly squat if you don’t win your conference. Very, very, true. NAS calls it straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 96,971 Reputation: 10,799 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, NAS Gone to Paradise said: When did USF win 8-9 conference games? OOC wins mean diddly squat if you don’t win your conference. Never, of course. I wasn't suggesting that - most would figure that out. OOC wins mean a lot Ned, when you're trying to establish credibility. Especially for a young program that survives on payday games. Winning the conference is nice, if it's a real conference like the Big East. We didn't do that and chopped off the head of the program. Haven't found a fit yet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, NAS Gone to Paradise said: When did USF win 8-9 conference games? OOC wins mean diddly squat if you don’t win your conference. Since we're talking about Leavitt and the BEast... That would have been quite an accomplishment since there were only 7 conf games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 18, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, NAS Gone to Paradise said: When did USF win 8-9 conference games? OOC wins mean diddly squat if you don’t win your conference. I would much rather be winning 9 games and losing the BEAST every season while beating up on marquee out of conference opponents than losing to marquee programs and winning 9 AAC games to take the AAC conference championship every season and I feel that anyone that says they don’t feel that way is being entirely disingenuous. So we don’t have conference hardware? Does the AAC give out a conference championship? Where would you put it? Somewhere below your presidents blue athletic patches from elementary school? And maybe just above your coed kickball participation trophy? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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