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What should AD MK do?

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On 11/11/2018 at 1:43 PM, SoFlo All Day said:

Regardless of how the next three games go (they wont be pretty lol) I think MK is going to have some really tough decisions to make this offseason about football. I think it will come down to a combo of different factors on and off the field. 

1. If I'm MK, Im really worried on how a 6 game losing streak to end the year stalls momentum on the fundraising side and buy-in from donors to the program. We've worked hard to get donor momentum back on track and it feels like we are letting it slip away by losing and not playing well. MK's legacy will be how he builds up the football facilities - any threat to that should be taken seriously. 

2. Charlie isn't MK's "guy" - We are effectively in a Holtz year 2 scenario here. The team has a big win early on (ND for Holtz - GT for Charlie) - regresses as the year goes on, isn't ever ready to play and cant finish games, and limps to a crappy finish (Holtz year 2 was 5-7). We made the terrible decision to re-sign Holtz only to fire him the next year and then saddle ourselves with an annoying buyout. Does MK really want to replay that scenario with Charlie?? If he does, then he is essentially tying his job to Charlie's success and given how CCS has coached here the past two seasons, that is very risky. Dont give me that 17-5 crap either. Going 2-5 against teams with a pulse isnt cutting it. Not to mention - we should be 6-4, 5-5, or worse this year. 

3. The cost of cutting Charlie loose this season is dirt cheap (even for us). $200k to remove someone who is hurting the momentum of the fanbase for someone that you handpicked is an interesting proposition. Not to mention, Charlie will be very expensive to keep going forward and anyone who can stomach giving Sterlin Gilbert a raise after these past two seasons shouldn't be anywhere near a football program.

I hope MK lets this entire coaching staff go - going 17-8 across two seasons sounds great, but this staff is equivalent to an overvalued stock because of the coach's name, prior successes, and the fact that they won most of their games against garbage opponents.  If you take a deeper look at the stats then the picture is pretty clear. Also, the value of any type of investment should be in the expected future value, not a backwards looking statistic like W/L. 

I am not of the mind to fire Strong, but if accurate, point #3 about the buyout being only $200K and not being Kelly’s hire could be a big factor in decion making. Depends on what kind of pressure the donors are putting on Kelly and how the fundraising is going. 

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On 11/11/2018 at 2:45 PM, USFBULL_08 said:

I imagine it would be scrutinized heavily in the media.

I don't think a blurb sandwiched between Gator articles or a tweet by Knight or Fennelly will count as heavily scrutinized.

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Cutting Strong loose after two bowl seasons with the second in a major transition year would not be a good look. Young up and comers would look at that happened to an established name like CCS and wonder what kind of leash they would get and not consider the job. If we struggle again with everything we return then you can talk about Firing CCS. I think Kelly should try to point CCS in the direction of staff changes this off season though. 

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2 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

Cutting Strong loose after two bowl seasons with the second in a major transition year would not be a good look. Young up and comers would look at that happened to an established name like CCS and wonder what kind of leash they would get and not consider the job. If we struggle again with everything we return then you can talk about Firing CCS. I think Kelly should try to point CCS in the direction of staff changes this off season though. 

Yes this all day. Well put. Next year we’re even more stacked we even more experience.  I’ve taken this year for what it is but firing the head coach right now isn’t the best solution. Replacing coordinators can crucially help us. 

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3 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

Cutting Strong loose after two bowl seasons with the second in a major transition year would not be a good look. Young up and comers would look at that happened to an established name like CCS and wonder what kind of leash they would get and not consider the job. If we struggle again with everything we return then you can talk about Firing CCS. I think Kelly should try to point CCS in the direction of staff changes this off season though. 

What makes you think anything is going to change? He was handed an amazing offense last year and his hand picked OC hampered the offense. His special teams have been awful this year and last year. He had the same issues at Texas. Need I remind you how bad he was at Texas? He won at Lou because of a NFL caliber QB. Strong had a ton of talent on defense last year (three are in the NFL?) and the defense wasn't much better than Taggarts. This year it's even worse. He's supposed to be a defensive coach and yet the defense still plays like crap. I get it if we don't fire him after this year, but if we don't want to keep trending down, we need to fire Strong. I'm getting a 6 to 8 win vibe next year. I guess if we're satisfied being mediocre in the AAC then we should keep Strong otherwise we need to find a young coach who can have success and leave. This year we've been lucky to pull 7 wins out of our ***. 

 

Sam Barrington had a great quote on the radio last week during the game. He said something to the effect of "I looked up and down our schedule and I haven't seen any teams that are more talented than USF, but they continue to get out schemed.  All Strong has is his reputation. He's been the same mediocre coach for five plus years. 

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3 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

Cutting Strong loose after two bowl seasons with the second in a major transition year would not be a good look. Young up and comers would look at that happened to an established name like CCS and wonder what kind of leash they would get and not consider the job. If we struggle again with everything we return then you can talk about Firing CCS. I think Kelly should try to point CCS in the direction of staff changes this off season though. 

I can think of a million reasons and a sweet buy out for failing why an up and comer would take the job.

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12 hours ago, usfgrad84 said:

I am not of the mind to fire Strong, but if accurate, point #3 about the buyout being only $200K and not being Kelly’s hire could be a big factor in decion making. Depends on what kind of pressure the donors are putting on Kelly and how the fundraising is going. 

If there isn't donor pressure already, you could sure see it if we get blown out in the next two games playing like we have.....especially against UCF. If I were MK, I'd atleast force some changes on offense and special teams. And not just digging back into Charlie's old network either. If you want to be successful here you have to be willing to think outside of the box and change your style like Willie did. 

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Honestly, I'd rather be in UCF's shoes of hiring a successful young coordinator. It's worked out for them two coaches in a row. While we're once again regressing with an old mediocre coach with a "name".

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28 minutes ago, NinjaPenguin777 said:

What makes you think anything is going to change? He was handed an amazing offense last year and his hand picked OC hampered the offense. His special teams have been awful this year and last year. He had the same issues at Texas. Need I remind you how bad he was at Texas? He won at Lou because of a NFL caliber QB. Strong had a ton of talent on defense last year (three are in the NFL?) and the defense wasn't much better than Taggarts. This year it's even worse. He's supposed to be a defensive coach and yet the defense still plays like crap. I get it if we don't fire him after this year, but if we don't want to keep trending down, we need to fire Strong. I'm getting a 6 to 8 win vibe next year. I guess if we're satisfied being mediocre in the AAC then we should keep Strong otherwise we need to find a young coach who can have success and leave. This year we've been lucky to pull 7 wins out of our ***. 

 

Sam Barrington had a great quote on the radio last week during the game. He said something to the effect of "I looked up and down our schedule and I haven't seen any teams that are more talented than USF, but they continue to get out schemed.  All Strong has is his reputation. He's been the same mediocre coach for five plus years. 

Where did his quote end?  

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3 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Where did his quote end?  

Sorry. Forgot to end the quote. It ended at the "but they continue to get out schemed". 

 

The last two sentences were mine

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