El_Toro_86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Pray there isn’t realignment anytime soon or C. Will leave us in the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, El_Toro_86 said: Pray there isn’t realignment anytime soon or C. Will leave us in the dust. But I was told we are a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Light Posted November 11, 2018 Group: UCF Knights Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 2,276 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2000 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bull94 said: UCF has hired two top p5 OCs for their last 2 HCs. Not sure why people think it's difficult. They pay Heupel $1.7M where he earned $700k + bonuses at Mizzou. If they want a big p5 HC job then this is where they audition. We hired a guy that imploded the only program in the country that has their own ESPN channel. That's the key now...as AD's want to hire someone's OFFENSE and if you hire an OC (who actually calls plays) and/or a HC who calls Offensive Plays (formerly was an OC), you get that HC's offense. For many programs...(especially mid level P5 and top G5) gone are the days of hiring a DC as a head coach and just letting them hire an OC of his choice (who might bolt in a year). Heck...the NFL is doing that now in San Fran and with the LA Rams...GRAB the offense you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, puc86 said: But I was told we are a team. Yes. There are many here who believe we should root for C. Because it makes the G5 look stronger. Efff that. This a zero sum game and we are getting our lunch eaten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: Yes. There are many here who believe we should root for C. Because it makes the G5 look stronger. Efff that. This a zero sum game and we are getting our lunch eaten. Nice! Zero sum game is always one of my talking points but the actual situation not so nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I hope Kelly can make an announcement on the ground breaking for the IPF sometime soon. We need something positive coming out of Fowler avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL_08 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,343 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2009 Share Posted November 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Knight_Light said: That's the key now...as AD's want to hire someone's OFFENSE and if you hire an OC (who actually calls plays) and/or a HC who calls Offensive Plays (formerly was an OC), you get that HC's offense. For many programs...(especially mid level P5 and top G5) gone are the days of hiring a DC as a head coach and just letting them hire an OC of his choice (who might bolt in a year). Heck...the NFL is doing that now in San Fran and with the LA Rams...GRAB the offense you want. This guy gets it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan27 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 193 Content Count: 5,252 Reputation: 545 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Share Posted November 11, 2018 the game today is all about offense. The rules are tailored to allow high scoring offenses to succeed and no one cares about defense. Saban figured this out and now no one can stop bama this year. Strong is a dinosaur today as the game has passed him by and if he doesn’t realize the need to change his offensive philosophy he will be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, bullsfan27 said: the game today is all about offense. The rules are tailored to allow high scoring offenses to succeed and no one cares about defense. Saban figured this out and now no one can stop bama this year. Strong is a dinosaur today as the game has passed him by and if he doesn’t realize the need to change his offensive philosophy he will be gone Maybe he is just cutting edge for the inevitable return back to defense and ball control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlo All Day Posted November 11, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 194 Reputation: 78 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/2015 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Regardless of how the next three games go (they wont be pretty lol) I think MK is going to have some really tough decisions to make this offseason about football. I think it will come down to a combo of different factors on and off the field. 1. If I'm MK, Im really worried on how a 6 game losing streak to end the year stalls momentum on the fundraising side and buy-in from donors to the program. We've worked hard to get donor momentum back on track and it feels like we are letting it slip away by losing and not playing well. MK's legacy will be how he builds up the football facilities - any threat to that should be taken seriously. 2. Charlie isn't MK's "guy" - We are effectively in a Holtz year 2 scenario here. The team has a big win early on (ND for Holtz - GT for Charlie) - regresses as the year goes on, isn't ever ready to play and cant finish games, and limps to a crappy finish (Holtz year 2 was 5-7). We made the terrible decision to re-sign Holtz only to fire him the next year and then saddle ourselves with an annoying buyout. Does MK really want to replay that scenario with Charlie?? If he does, then he is essentially tying his job to Charlie's success and given how CCS has coached here the past two seasons, that is very risky. Dont give me that 17-5 crap either. Going 2-5 against teams with a pulse isnt cutting it. Not to mention - we should be 6-4, 5-5, or worse this year. 3. The cost of cutting Charlie loose this season is dirt cheap (even for us). $200k to remove someone who is hurting the momentum of the fanbase for someone that you handpicked is an interesting proposition. Not to mention, Charlie will be very expensive to keep going forward and anyone who can stomach giving Sterlin Gilbert a raise after these past two seasons shouldn't be anywhere near a football program. I hope MK lets this entire coaching staff go - going 17-8 across two seasons sounds great, but this staff is equivalent to an overvalued stock because of the coach's name, prior successes, and the fact that they won most of their games against garbage opponents. If you take a deeper look at the stats then the picture is pretty clear. Also, the value of any type of investment should be in the expected future value, not a backwards looking statistic like W/L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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