Apis Bull Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted June 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Triple B said: She's been heavily involved in firings so it's not a real stretch to imagine her heavily involved on the other end ... Ultimately she is the one to hire and fire ADs, but like was mentioned, we don't know how personally involved she gets, I mean, did the search firm have other candidates that she nixed before hiring Harlan, or was he the search firms top choice? I guess that's why they hire one in the first place, so we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/usf-bulls/2018/06/04/judy-genshaft-needs-to-stay-away-from-usfs-athletic-director-hire/ Not a huge fan of Jones, but hard to argue anything in this article. How about... DW is the reason we're not in the P5? USF should be on the same level as Miami and Louisville? Utah isn't a better job than USF? (or it's not a better job? I don't know what his point was here) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Already mentioned here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, JTrue said: How about... DW is the reason we're not in the P5? USF should be on the same level as Miami and Louisville? Utah isn't a better job than USF? (or it's not a better job? I don't know what his point was here) It's hard for him to argue, because he believes the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted June 5, 2018 18 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said: Approximately $100,000. Seriously? How about for less than that the two of us pitch our idea that this is a two man job right now with a policy wonk and a PR face to make it rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted June 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, JTrue said: How about... DW is the reason we're not in the P5? USF should be on the same level as Miami and Louisville? Utah isn't a better job than USF? (or it's not a better job? I don't know what his point was here) The P5 is the reason we're not in the P5. Miami is an old private school with a dirty history for their football program. I'd rather be here than Utah but that P5 money and power makes it a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted June 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Apis Bull said: It's hard for him to argue, because he believes the same thing. You can fault DW for many things, not getting into the P5 isn't one of them. I get the reason for the Miami and Louisville comparison, but its ridiculous. Miami is a totally different situation, apples to oranges. Louisville, on the surface, makes sense to compare us too, but 100 years of football, Papa John, Jurich, and Johnny Unitas make it silly. Utah is unquestionably a better job, at a better school, in a better conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted June 5, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,748 Content Count: 17,453 Reputation: 1,221 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted June 5, 2018 We were on the same level as Louisville, Is DW to blame for us getting left behind? no. I may be recalling things wrong but weren't JG and DW outspoken about refusing the Big East TV contract that was offered. If that was accepted the Big East may have survived and we would be in much better shape today than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted June 5, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said: We were on the same level as Louisville, Is DW to blame for us getting left behind? no. I may be recalling things wrong but weren't JG and DW outspoken about refusing the Big East TV contract that was offered. If that was accepted the Big East may have survived and we would be in much better shape today than we are. Pitt and Cuse lead the "don't accept the deal" charge right before they left, for obvious reasons EDIT: Pitt's Mark Nordenberg was the main voice in not accepting the deal. Edited June 5, 2018 by Bull Dozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted June 5, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,748 Content Count: 17,453 Reputation: 1,221 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted June 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: Pitt and Cuse lead the "don't accept the deal" charge right before they left, for obvious reasons EDIT: Pitt's Mark Nordenberg was the main voice in not accepting the deal. Was USF part of the don't accept crowd? I thought they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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