NewEnglandBull Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Triple B said: When I signed on not knowing what happened and on the Index saw that you were the latest post on the thread, knew we had lost ... Thanks for ruining the suspense for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanbull93 Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 213 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/03/2014 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I was at the game...sad we could not have a better turnout...the weather was perfect...great venue to watch a game at. Ump was brutal in the 9th, but we got what we deserved with a lot of questionable managing and undisciplined play. This was one of the more USF-iest losses that I can remember in recent history. Lets get it done against UCIF...but I think we will come out flat and poop the bed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 961 Content Count: 9,759 Reputation: 592 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted May 26, 2017 OK, here is my take. I was there and saw every pitch. The Ump was bad all night, not just the 9th. He was bad for both teams too, not just USF. Should we have gotten a few pitches...yes. Should ECU have gotten a few pitches...yes. That isn't what lost this game. I, like many on this board was wondering where is Perez? I was calling for him in the 8th. We were lucky to get out of that inning. Why didn't he start the 9th? Why didn't he come in when two batters reached and there was a lefty batting with no outs? Very strange. There have only been a few of us who've been to games all year, so I say this as one of the biggest baseball fans on this board...I had no idea why there were no moves made. We've made the same moves all year with Joe C and Perez. Its like clockwork. He only trusts those two. When I say he, I'm referring to Kingston (and Mohl I guess). Its been this way since early on. Every now and then we see Savarese for an inning around the 6th or 7th. It was unbelievable to watch this game just slip away. And for those that say this is so USF, you are wrong. We haven't lost this way all year, this was different. I'm not sure of the strategy. Is Perez hurt? If so, bring in Savarese for 3 outs. Joe C cannot and should not be the only arm to trust in the late innings of a close ballgame. He already did his job. I'm not sure if we'll get an answer on this, since we have no reporters that actually report on baseball. Very frustrating as this would have put us in great position to contend for the title. We have potentially 4 games left in this tournament, with one healthy starter left. You do the math. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Thanks for your trusted insight. Certainly some mystery. Coach can't speak to it with game tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted May 26, 2017 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted May 26, 2017 9 hours ago, gmanbull93 said: I was at the game...sad we could not have a better turnout...the weather was perfect...great venue to watch a game at. Ump was brutal in the 9th, but we got what we deserved with a lot of questionable managing and undisciplined play. This was one of the more USF-iest losses that I can remember in recent history. Lets get it done against UCIF...but I think we will come out flat and poop the bed again. Unfortunately I'm afraid we'll see UCF end our run in the tournament which hurts even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 961 Content Count: 9,759 Reputation: 592 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted May 26, 2017 And actually the turnout was pretty good last night, forgot to mention that on my rant. Not sure what the other guy is talking about above. We had just about as many as I've seen for a USF game in Clearwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 153 Content Count: 3,034 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/23/2008 Share Posted May 26, 2017 54 minutes ago, JoeB said: And actually the turnout was pretty good last night, forgot to mention that on my rant. Not sure what the other guy is talking about above. We had just about as many as I've seen for a USF game in Clearwater. It was about the best crowd for us I've seen at any of these tournaments. Loud bunch, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg233 Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 1,076 Reputation: 252 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2010 Share Posted May 26, 2017 11 hours ago, JoeB said: OK, here is my take. I was there and saw every pitch. The Ump was bad all night, not just the 9th. He was bad for both teams too, not just USF. Should we have gotten a few pitches...yes. Should ECU have gotten a few pitches...yes. That isn't what lost this game. I, like many on this board was wondering where is Perez? I was calling for him in the 8th. We were lucky to get out of that inning. Why didn't he start the 9th? Why didn't he come in when two batters reached and there was a lefty batting with no outs? Very strange. There have only been a few of us who've been to games all year, so I say this as one of the biggest baseball fans on this board...I had no idea why there were no moves made. We've made the same moves all year with Joe C and Perez. Its like clockwork. He only trusts those two. When I say he, I'm referring to Kingston (and Mohl I guess). Its been this way since early on. Every now and then we see Savarese for an inning around the 6th or 7th. It was unbelievable to watch this game just slip away. And for those that say this is so USF, you are wrong. We haven't lost this way all year, this was different. I'm not sure of the strategy. Is Perez hurt? If so, bring in Savarese for 3 outs. Joe C cannot and should not be the only arm to trust in the late innings of a close ballgame. He already did his job. I'm not sure if we'll get an answer on this, since we have no reporters that actually report on baseball. Very frustrating as this would have put us in great position to contend for the title. We have potentially 4 games left in this tournament, with one healthy starter left. You do the math. That's what is so annoying and crazy about it. Kingston had to know that after the first two guys reached in the 9th that we would lose if he left Joe C. in. He had nothing left. If we lost the game with anyone else in there I would not be so annoyed. Farley or Sullivan or anyone who was fresh would have at least had a fighting chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 153 Content Count: 3,034 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/23/2008 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted May 26, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted May 26, 2017 12 hours ago, NCBull said: Bush league post blaming the ump. This game was ours to win. Nathan's got a good article on it over at TDS. Basically he says it's Genord's fault for pissing off the ump http://www.thedailystampede.com/2017/5/26/15696202/what-just-happened-usf-ecu-cliff-godwin-mark-kingston-aac-ucf-baseball-joe-cavallaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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