Triple B Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,508 Reputation: 10,798 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, JupiterBull said: Desperate times call for desperate measures, clearly. I do think the front line should expect it, even if just a nano-second. But if you plan for the trick play all the time, you'll get gashed the other 99.9%. I was only nervous after UCF scored so quickly. Once we went up, 14-7, I felt we'd win (not sure by any means, but confident). Thing is, even if you know the onside kick is coming, they still work at times with the luck of the bounce and execution ... To call what happened in regards to the onside kick on Saturday "inexcusably poor coaching" is patently absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted November 28, 2016 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Triple B said: Thing is, even if you know the onside kick is coming, they still work at times with the luck of the bounce and execution ... To call what happened in regards to the onside kick on Saturday "inexcusably poor coaching" is patently absurd. To that point, both times their kicker tried it he did it perfectly. Got that high bounce that they are always looking for. Very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted November 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, Bourbon Bull said: To that point, both times their kicker tried it he did it perfectly. Got that high bounce that they are always looking for. Very impressed. Yeah, both of those kicks were textbook. That kid did a heckuva job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterBull Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 5,431 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 16 Joined: 02/08/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Triple B said: Obviously didn't follow UCF that closely this year but If onside kicks and wr pass plays were staples of their game, I stand corrected ..... if not, they were gimmick plays used to try and compensate for going against a vastly better team. Desperate times call for desperate measures, clearly. I do think the front line should expect it, even if just a nano-second. But if you plan for the trick play all the time, you'll get gashed the other 99.9%. I was only nervous after UCF scored so quickly. Once we went up, 14-7, I felt we'd win (not sure by any means, but confident). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterBull Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 5,431 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 16 Joined: 02/08/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, Triple B said: Thing is, even if you know the onside kick is coming, they still work at times with the luck of the bounce and execution ... To call what happened in regards to the onside kick on Saturday "inexcusably poor coaching" is patently absurd. Agreed...a little post-game hyperbole. I'm not surprised Frost tried it, and other gadgets, as they clearly had less talent and needed guile and some breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 961 Content Count: 9,759 Reputation: 592 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted November 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, JupiterBull said: Agreed...a little post-game hyperbole. I'm not surprised Frost tried it, and other gadgets, as they clearly had less talent and needed guile and some breaks. When you have less talent you have to do some extreme things. Does anyone remember our early days? That one Amarri Jackson game vs Louisville was all trick plays it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterBull Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 5,431 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 16 Joined: 02/08/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2016 47 minutes ago, JoeB said: When you have less talent you have to do some extreme things. Does anyone remember our early days? That one Amarri Jackson game vs Louisville was all trick plays it seemed. Yup...I think he had 2 TDs & passed for 1? It was one of first early wins. I also remember going to the Orange Bowl the next week, and we got crushed 27-7. I don't blame them for doing it...but we have to be ready. On the WR pass to Smith, we actually had decent coverage. If Nichols knew the ball was coming, he likely turns around & makes a play on the ball. Still, thumping UCF 48-31 makes it hard to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted November 28, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Poor Grouper. This thread didn't work out too well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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