Do you believe we could ever....

[usfgrad84]

Mack could get some consideration, but as others have stated, we would have to win every game. Mack would have to have a dominating performance and do something spectacular in every single game. He has to really do something to stay in the national spotlight every week. 

The other thing that really needs to happen is USF needs to market the hell out of Mack and his achievements. The problem is I just don't see USF's media presence very strong. Mack needs to become a national household name. Talent wise he may be good enough, but  there are a few more emerging talents on this team that we we would stupid to not utilize. The team chemistry seems strong and each guy has contributed. 

 

I don't see a Heisman candidate realistic from USF  

 

 

[The Sheriff]

IF AW is the better QB (which I believe he is no matter how admirably QF played this season), AW should be the starting QB going into next season. Sitting a better player out of loyalty to the incumbent is a failure on the part of the coaching staff (no matter what school you're dealing with).

[bullsfan1983]

Mack would need over 2k yards to crack top 10. Almost no chance to win it. USF doesn't play a challenging schedule in the eyes of the voters. It was already posted but Kevin Smith put up 2800 scrimmage yards (2500 rushing) and 30 touchdowns and barely got a sniff of the top 10 I can't see Mack getting the workload to put up the numbers he would need to be in the discussion. 

[Triple B]

IF AW is the better QB (which I believe he is no matter how admirably QF played this season), AW should be the starting QB going into next season. Sitting a better player out of loyalty to the incumbent is a failure on the part of the coaching staff (no matter what school you're dealing with).

Barring injury, there is no way that AW is the starting qb going into into next season. The best case scenario you guys can hope for to get QF out of there is that AW is so far above him in practice that CWT faces a mutiny from his staff if he doesn't let them battle it out in the games before FSU. We've yet to be presented with a precedent where a qb with QF's overall success one year was supplanted as starter by a player who hadn't played a down of college ball.

[CaliforniaBull]

Barring injury, there is no way that AW is the starting qb going into into next season. The best case scenario you guys can hope for to get QF out of there is that AW is so far above him in practice that CWT faces a mutiny from his staff if he doesn't let them battle it out in the games before FSU. We've yet to be presented with a precedent where a qb with QF's overall success one year was supplanted as starter by a player who hadn't played a down of college ball.

I CANNOT believe I am agreeing with you, but I actually am. Flowers has been doing awesome lately, and I don't think we should fool around with something that's working so well. The option with Mack and Flowers back there is dangerous

[2000bull]

Mack would need over 2k yards to crack top 10. Almost no chance to win it. USF doesn't play a challenging schedule in the eyes of the voters. It was already posted but Kevin Smith put up 2800 scrimmage yards (2500 rushing) and 30 touchdowns and barely got a sniff of the top 10 I can't see Mack getting the workload to put up the numbers he would need to be in the discussion. 

didn't we shut smith down that yr?

[NCBull]

didn't we shut smith down that yr?

Yep...that was the 64-12 year.  Think Smith limped out 52 yards or something.

[Raetus]

Yep...that was the 64-12 year.  Think Smith limped out 52 yards or something.

Mack would need over 2k yards to crack top 10. Almost no chance to win it. USF doesn't play a challenging schedule in the eyes of the voters. It was already posted but Kevin Smith put up 2800 scrimmage yards (2500 rushing) and 30 touchdowns and barely got a sniff of the top 10 I can't see Mack getting the workload to put up the numbers he would need to be in the discussion. 

UCF lost 3 games that year before Heisman voting (and 4 if you count the bowl) and played in Conference USA -- no one is going to look at a non traditional conference team and think "Oh, they lost three games, how impressive." 

As it's been said before, things are harder in what is currently called the G5... you've most likely got to win out to win the Heisman.

[2000bull]

Yep...that was the 64-12 year.  Think Smith limped out 52 yards or something.

I think they actually pulled him in the 2nd or 3rd qtr if I remember correctly

[Apis Bull]

Barring injury, there is no way that AW is the starting qb going into into next season. The best case scenario you guys can hope for to get QF out of there is that AW is so far above him in practice that CWT faces a mutiny from his staff if he doesn't let them battle it out in the games before FSU. We've yet to be presented with a precedent where a qb with QF's overall success one year was supplanted as starter by a player who hadn't played a down of college ball.

Outside of injury, the only way I can see AW beating out Flowers is if he is clearly better.  With that said, I still think Flowers will be our opening day starter.