The Great 8 Posted December 13, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Air Force was offered the B12 and turned it down.here is a quote from their athletic director "We were approached by the Big 12, and I told them we're not a good fit for that conference. In the Big 12, geography makes sense, the economics make sense, but recruiting makes no sense for us. I can't recruit against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State," Mueh said."That's why I turned down the Big 12. I can't do that to my kids, because they'll get beat up. I'd love the extra $12 million or whatever it would be per year from the TV money. And I know how I'd spend the money. I'd build a new soccer stadium, and I'd build a new baseball facility, all in one year. But I can't do that."http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesheadlines/2011/10/10/why-air-force-didn-t-join-big-12-falcons-didn-t-want-to-get-beat-upThis sounds like a very short sighted, and idiotic, decision made by the AF AD, if it's indeed true. But, very happy we have AD's like this leaving room for us :). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted December 13, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,109 Reputation: 909 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 13, 2015 This sounds like a very short sighted, and idiotic, decision made by the AF AD, if it's indeed true. But, very happy we have AD's like this leaving room for us :). The service academies have different priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,612 Reputation: 1,778 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The service academies have different priorities. This ^^^^^^^^^^. Plus that decision was several years ago while the BCS and Big East were still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,109 Reputation: 909 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If the Big 12 extended an invite (formal or otherwise) and Air Force refused it then the AD should be fired especially when he spouts off all of the benefits of joining.The service academies have different priorities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 14, 2015 We would be expanding by dropping Tulane and Tulsa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaBull Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 11 Content Count: 246 Reputation: 56 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/25/2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Tulsa isnt the problem in this conference, Tlane is. Tulsa went 3-0 vs the G5, has a high powered offense, and has a very good basketball team. They have a history of winning the Cusa. Tulane has always sucked in football. Always sucked in basketball. And overall, doesnt bring much to the conference at all. You guys have heard me im sure, here is my pick for expansion. Drop Tulane. Add Boise, Colorado st, and Marshall. If we want 16, which i think we could / should, lets get Northern Illinois, and look into picking between Nevada, Toledo, or san diego st. This conference would look great for east west divisions, and im positive those programs would accept. West: Houston, SMU, Colorado st, Boise, Tulsa, Northern Illinois, Navy, San Diego stEast : USF, UCF, Cincy, Uconn, Marshall, Memphis, Temple, ECUThat is a stacked conference to me. Not quite P5 yet, but for sure will not be compared to G5 anymore, because i would not be able to name a conference close to us in terms of strength essentially giving us a NY6 spot every year Edited December 14, 2015 by CaliforniaBull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,612 Reputation: 1,778 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Tulsa isnt the problem in this conference, Tlane is. Tulsa went 3-0 vs the G5, has a high powered offense, and has a very good basketball team. They have a history of winning the Cusa. Tulane has always sucked in football. Always sucked in basketball. And overall, doesnt bring much to the conference at all. You guys have heard me im sure, here is my pick for expansion. Drop Tulane. Add Boise, Colorado st, and Marshall. If we want 16, which i think we could / should, lets get Northern Illinois, and look into picking between Nevada, Toledo, or san diego st. This conference would look great for east west divisions, and im positive those programs would accept. West: Houston, SMU, Colorado st, Boise, Tulsa, Northern Illinois, Navy, San Diego stEast : USF, UCF, Cincy, Uconn, Marshall, Memphis, Temple, ECUThat is a stacked conference to me. Not quite P5 yet, but for sure will not be compared to G5 anymore, because i would not be able to name a conference close to us in terms of strength essentially giving us a NY6 spot every yearLove that you are positive those programs would accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Tulsa isnt the problem in this conference, Tlane is. Tulsa went 3-0 vs the G5, has a high powered offense, and has a very good basketball team. They have a history of winning the Cusa. Tulane has always sucked in football. Always sucked in basketball. And overall, doesnt bring much to the conference at all. You guys have heard me im sure, here is my pick for expansion. Drop Tulane. Add Boise, Colorado st, and Marshall. If we want 16, which i think we could / should, lets get Northern Illinois, and look into picking between Nevada, Toledo, or san diego st. This conference would look great for east west divisions, and im positive those programs would accept. West: Houston, SMU, Colorado st, Boise, Tulsa, Northern Illinois, Navy, San Diego stEast : USF, UCF, Cincy, Uconn, Marshall, Memphis, Temple, ECUThat is a stacked conference to me. Not quite P5 yet, but for sure will not be compared to G5 anymore, because i would not be able to name a conference close to us in terms of strength essentially giving us a NY6 spot every yearI would still include Tulsa. Smallest D1 program in the country, little fan support, small stadium, middle of nowhere, etc. Basketball is relevant but that doesn't pay the bills. The only value they have is that they are a good academic school (as is Tulane). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 14, 2015 We should look at adding San Diego State and Boise. They'd jump to the AAC in a heartbeat if we offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 79 Bull Posted December 14, 2015 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 682 Content Count: 7,627 Reputation: 1,188 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/10/2003 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2015 We should look at adding San Diego State and Boise. They'd jump to the AAC in a heartbeat if we offered.Ummm..I think we saw this movie already and it sure didn't end that way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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