Ruffin McNeil Fired at ECU

[NCBull]

Remind us how long you have consistently been in the AAC.  There's a start to bolster your claim.  Unfortunately it also guts it.

[I like GOOOOLD (and green)]

I don't mean to come across as rude, but the lack of reading comprehension is apparent, which seems to happen with alarming frequency here: I said there were consistent results compared to teams CURRENTLY in the AAC.  That means the history extends beyond the infancy of the AAC.  Conference names aside, most of the same teams have been playing each other for over a decade now.  But since you asked the question: the Pirates have been part of the AAC for two seasons, and in those two seasons despite a down year this year have more wins than everyone but Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and Temple in that time (remember multiple outcomes(seasons) -> trend).  So even though that wasn't the basis of my statement, it still holds true...just further solidifies what I said.  I know that's a bit of ownage, so I wanted to take a step back to emphasize that I am here to have intelligent conversation that is balanced...in the interest of being balanced I should note that USF and Navy are the TWO programs in the AAC that own the head to head against ECU.  So, while what I have said over the past couple hours is completely true, I must acknowledge the job USF has done against the Pirates, in particular.    

[Dogma]

 

Because that's just one season, Apis.  This theory applies across the board, not just to the Pirates.  For example, despite a good season USF has been consistently bad for the last half decade...UCF despite a bad season has been consistently good over the same amount of time.  I understand that it behooves your psyche attm to have a short memory on these matters but consistency is the true measure of a program and that is what ECU is seeking.  They are hoping to establish a 5-7 young/injury riddled campaign as the nadir.  ECU is doing what they can to position themselves for growth, like everyone else in the American.  Time will tell rather quickly whether this move pays off or not.  Butch Davis would be a good pickup.  

A single outcome does not quantify a trend by any measure; consistency is derived from trends. The previous statement makes complete sense, and the proper word was indeed used.  Is this where someone who thinks they're being clever adds a classy 'your thinking isn't thinking the way it should be thinking' or 'maybe your thinking is the problem' meme? 

2015 - 5 - 7

2014    64     23    54   -0.605   8  5      0.145   -1.087   38.6   51.3
2013    26     13    50    0.580  10  3      0.294   -0.475   38.5   51.1
2012    54     45    90   -0.142   8  5      0.125   -0.606   43.7   48.3
2011    63     66    97   -0.064   5  7      0.097   -0.661   50.7   49.6
2010    54     15   119    0.099   6  7      0.398   -0.840   55.6   47.8
2009    37     62    35    0.553   9  5      0.443   -0.564   50.3   50.6
2008    51     80    31    0.170   9  5      0.497   -1.038   46.1   50.2
2007    49     44    84    0.308   8  5      0.450   -0.833   49.4   49.2
2006    63     79    47   -0.039   7  6      0.252   -0.902   46.4   48.6
2005    75     73    79   -0.316   5  6      0.150   -1.008   45.9   50.7
2004   111     92   115   -1.819   2  9      0.060   -2.151   48.3   50.5
2003   108    104   105   -2.018   1 11      0.000   -2.184   49.7   49.8
2002    91     53    97   -1.135   4  8      0.339   -1.890   50.0   48.9
2001    53     13    86    0.205   6  6      0.284   -0.606   56.0   48.8
2000    36     31    38    0.622   8  4      0.490   -0.618   48.9   51.8

 

So out of the past 15 years, ECU has had only 8 years with a record over .500

So please explain to me how that is "consistently better"

[I like GOOOOLD (and green)]

I already explained in clear terms above, if you care for me to explain in your terms, you will need to provide something to compare it to.  For example: Going back 10 years (to 2005), how does the number of years with a record over .500 compare between ECU and USF? To which I would answer: well, it would the same for each, 6.  That's how the conversation should flow...not: 'oh, let me pick one arbitrary stat with no control or test subject to compare with and try to make hay from it while completely ignoring a well laid out rationale just a couple replies above'.  It should be noted that USF's and Cincy's relative history in these meaningless 'discussions' are the only schools in the current AAC (save Navy-losses/sample size) that compares favorably to that of ECU's over a similar time, so focusing on USF really doesn't deviate from the original point that ECU is still consistently better than most of the current AAC schools.  Also, just for good measure-having a record over .500 more often than not over 15 years like Dogma suggested is actually ahead of the curve, especially for a small time team.   

 

[Apis Bull]

Dude, I'm just messing with you.  The use of the word, "consistently" is where I have a problem.  Have you generally been a better team than most of the teams in this conference?  Sure, but as stated above, ECU is not, "consistently" better.  You've had your up and down cycles like most teams do. 

[Paisa el Toro]

Butch Davis at ECU would be a huge upgrade. Someone in their administration much think they have a legit chance at wooing Butch, otherwise the McNeil firing doesn't make much sense.

[NCBull]

Class act...hope he lands on his feet at a place that will appreciate him.

@RuffinMcNeill  I love and I'm a proud graduate of East Carolina University. I have only positive thoughts and words for our institution. Luv u
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[Dogma]

Heading to Virginia to be Assistant Head Coach and LB coach.

[Ricky the Bull]

Duke OC announced as new ECU coach.

[Danm1983]

Duke OC announced as new ECU coach.

whiff. ECU strapped for cash or something? this is so odd of a situation. I heard the Boneyard was melting down, and quite unhappy with the AD.