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In our efforts to raise funds for USF Football, the site is giving away a football season full of ad-free surfing at The Bulls Pen.

Would you consider buying a ticket or two to the raffle that will award this to you or a fellow member of the board?

Each ticket purchase goes directly to our effort to raise $10K in "fan money" for the program.  Below is the link:

The Bulls Pen Ad-free Raffle in support of USF Football

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  1. Because of your irrational dislike for the best football team in the American conference since it was formed, I know how hard you REALLY want to ignore an actual screen shot of the NCAA record book associating the words NATIONAL CHAMPION with the formula that ranked UCF #1. I feel sorry that you guys have not come close to experiencing the highs that UCF fans have been able to experience. So sad. Here's a question. If it was as clear cut as you claim it is, then why doesn't he NCAA simply make a modification to that page in the NATIONAL CHAMPONS section of the document to say 1896 to 1996. And why doesn't the NCAA simply remove UCF from the NATIONAL CHAMPIONS section of the document?
  2. I'll do you one better than a "copy and paste." How about a screen shot of the actual document itself! Notice the circled parts...National Champion...and the effective dates 1896 to PRESENT. Not 1896 to 2013 or 1896 to 1996 as you seem to believe.
  3. Notice the NCAA record book uses the term "CFP Champion" and not "National Champion" in that paragraph. One of several indications that there are multiple ways to be listed in the record book as a national champion.
  4. I notice you skipped right over the second bullet of point #2...so let me show it to you again: - If the NCAA really stopped considering the polls/formulas they previously considered, why do they still list them (and the teams they rank as #1) as PRESENT selectors in the official record book?
  5. Naturally from a UCF perspective...if you try to judge an entire program across all of the last 22 years, I am not sure how USF could be viewed as ahead of UCF. On Field Success: USF had moderate success under two of it's head coaches. Levitt had a .625 winning percentage and 3-2 bowl record. Best record was 9-4 (multiple times) and best finish in the Big East was 4th place (multiple times). Best wins over teams that finished in the Top 25...2005 Louisville, 2006 WVU, 2007 (best season) Auburn & WVU, 2009 WVU...a lot of success in this category. Taggart had a low overall winning percentage due to taking over a bad team from Skip Holtz, but improved the team significantly to 11-2 and a Top 20 ranking within 4 years. Though Strong started out great with Taggart's team, it has all been downhill since then. After his failures at Texas and now at USF, it seems that Strong will not be the coach to lead USF back. UCF has had high level success under three different coaches over a 10 year period of time since 2010. That includes, five conference championships, multiple Top 20 finishes, two Top 10 finishes, and two BCS/NY6 bowl wins over Top 10 teams. UCF has had extreme lows (multiple winless seasons)...but also extreme highs. Even if you call this category a draw, UCF's recent success and name recognition probably gives us an edge. Facilities: UCF has had a lead in football related facilities all along. The Wayne Densch Sports Center opened in 2003 for football with excellent weight room and meeting facilities. The weight room was recently upgraded significantly. The indoor practice facility opened in 2005 and has been improved since then. A new facility being built between the two above facilities is going to provide a better locker room and meeting rooms for football. While USF has been and plans to continue improving its facilities, they have always been behind UCF. Ticket Sales Revenue and Donations: UCF receives significantly more revenue from ticket sales and donations than USF does. Ticket Sales (All tickets...not just football): UCF $6 million - USF $3 million Donations: UCF $10 million - USF $2 million Overall Athletic Budget: The most recent report (2018-2018) shows UCF's overall athletic budget is 20% larger than USF's...$61.1 million vs 50.6 million. That $11 million gap has been growing larger every year since both programs joined the same conference. I can't find the data right now, but I believe that the gap was between $3 million and $5 million for the 2013-2014 year.
  6. Funny how south florida fans like to bury their head in the sand to ignore what is right in front of them. 1. UCF is doing EXACTLY the same thing that many well known schools have done through the years. Utah claims 2008 based on the Anderson/Hester formula Ohio State claims 1970 based on the National Football Foundation poll Alabama claims 1941 based on the Houlgate formula Oklahoma St recently put up signage in their stadium for 1945 (the AFCA retroactively named OK St their national champions for that year, even though AFCA is not listed by the NCAA record book for prior or subsequent years). Minnesota claims 1904 based on Billingsley Texas A&M has signage on their stadium for 1919 (National Championship Foundation) and 1927 ( Sagarin). Neither formula/ranking existed the year the championship is claimed for. Both were done retroactively. USC claims 1928 (Dickinson & Sagarin) and 1939 (Dickinson) Pitt claims 1929/1931/1934 (Parke Davis) 1936 (Houlgate & Boand) There are other examples. 2. For those of you clueless enough to claim that the system "changed with the advent of the BCS +1 formula or the College Football Playoff, consider this. - The NCAA FBS Record Book linked earlier in this thread LITERALLY has a section on page 108 titled "National Champion Major Selections (1896 to PRESENT)." Notice it does NOT say 1896 to 2014 (the year prior to the beginning of the CFP)...or 1896 to 1997 (the year prior to the beginning of the BCS system). - If the NCAA really stopped considering the polls/formulas they previously considered, why do they still list them (and the teams they rank as #1) as PRESENT selectors in the official record book?
  7. Well...I'm not atsKnight, but here you go. Don't think there is much either side can argue about this. 1997 UCF 1998 UCF 1999 UCF 2000 UCF 2001 Toss Up 2002 Toss Up 2003 USF 2004 USF 2005 USF 2006 USF 2007 USF 2008 USF 2009 USF 2010 UCF 2011 USF 2012 UCF 2013 UCF 2014 UCF 2015 USF 2016 USF 2017 UCF 2018 UCF
  8. I always love these posts where south florida fans have to go back a decade, to a time when they had the BCS tag advantage, to demonstrate their superiority over UCF!
  9. A UCF fans know they will not receive any validation on a USF site...therefore it would be waste of time to come over here trying to get it. This is payback for the south florida arrogance prior to and during your time in the Big East...nothing more.
  10. More like showing you who's the boss. Since we joined the same conference (where south florida didn't have the BCS advantage)...UCF is the boss.
  11. ESPN has no trouble acknowledging the NCAA recognition of UCF's National Championship.
  12. When south florida was in the Big East, there were plenty of Bulls fans on UCF's message boards. Should be no big surprise that when the tables are turned, a few UCF fans venture over here.
  13. Great win by Temple. After beating a B10 team ranked #21, "Power" 5 bias means they only get seven points from AP voters...one vote at 22, one at 24, and one at 25.
  14. In the Bottom 25 that is... https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/bottom-25-college-football-rankings-ucla-missouri-northwestern-duke-looking-to-escape/
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