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Miami is an $85,000/year private school so yea I skipped Miami. With their attendance woes I fail to see your point. What I learned over the past few years with three, soon to be four kids in college simultaneously is the cheapest way to attend college is to live at home and go to HCC and then jump to USF. As the dad, that was always my plan. My wife convinced me that college could be more than getting a degree, that the overall experience was part of the growth and education. Being away from home in a town focused on a college provided a certain intangible value. A school imbedded in a city was not what we were going for. If living in Miami was the goal we would have gone with FIU which has a beautiful campus and a stadium. USF has come a long way since my wife attended as an undergraduate. The new dorms are pretty slick (better than UF, FSU and UCF imo). I would say a big knock is the off campus environment is not very collegy and too close to home. UF was the school all the kids wanted to get in to. They are the top dog but as the top dog they don't give a ****. The dorms are horrible and the town is old and you get the sense that the administration has a take it or leave it vibe. FSU is freaking nice. The dorms are plentiful, big, clean and close to everything. The off campus situations is awesome. UCF was actually pretty nice but like USF (and FIU) had a limited college feel when you stepped off campus - at least as perceived from a one day tour. My daughters chose UF and my son wanted his independence so chose FSU. As parents we get to compare the schools and I have been really impressed with FSU. When the hurricane came UF told all 30,000 students to stock up in the publix across the street as the dining halls were likely to close. At the same time my son was telling me they were serving ice cream in the dorms and they would provide sandwiches in case the dining halls shut down. Isn't UF supposed to be the better school? They just seem like "take it or leave it". One last thing, Florida has a really good secondary education system. There really is something for everyone. If you struggled academically there are schools (including the CC's) for you. If you dream of graduating from UF there is a path if you are motivated.

I can't believe this is still being debated. The stadium is finally happening and it should have been done in the beginning. I've toured every college in the state of Florida with my kids. UCF, FAU, FIU all have stadiums. The stadiums are on campus because it's a college activity. It matters not what some old codgers on a message board think it's for the students - which is where fans originate. My kids go to UF and FSU. I encouraged that over USF because I wanted them to have an actual college experience. The game day atmosphere where the students roll out of bed and go to the game. College kids are lazy and get this, putting the stadiums next to the freaking dorms was INTENTIONAL. FSU's stadium has bleachers and feels like a dungeon but the kids poured out of the dorms on parents day anyway. Sorry if our old fat asses need a padded seat, it's not for us. Ray Jay is a professional stadium that we sold out a handful of times, the rest of the time it looks empty, even in the good old days forget now. These kids are expected to take a bus? Drive? Your entitled to your opinion if you think an OCS is a bad idea, it matters not in the grand scheme because it's happening. I predict however that when you first set foot in the new stadium you will begrudgingly realize how mistaken you have been all along.

I don't post much but I periodically check this thread to see if anything is going on. Feel like things are heating up? Also, this thread has outlived "tweets" which is crazy. They are now called "posts".

Doug kept saying the SDSU guys were going to play in Sundays. If I recall SDSU had a pretty good running back. Is there delivery style similar because it sounded like Doug? I was at Rutgers when he was the head coach.

SDSU and Doug Graber. Pretty sure Al Keck as well.

Trivia question. Who was the first 1A program USF played? Bonus question 1, who was the announcer? Bonus question 2, what was some of the annoying stuff he said?

Can someone explain to me how we would have won more games if we spent more money on football? Not being argumentative I just don't understand.

Should the OCS have Publix subs when we play our first Big 12 game under coach Asiantii Woulard? Only if the most powerful person on campus, Athletic Director Jim Leavitt says so of course.

You seem passionate.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I haven't the slightest interest to anybody vote for and if prefer to keep it that way. if I want to open my mind to other people's political views I'll go to a political forum. There is no shortage of those.

One of the few redeeming characteristics of this board these days is it's one of the few places in the internet where people don't discuss their politics.

We've come a long way from Gallagher's "Drive-Thru U" comment.

That read more like context to me.

This is exactly how I feel.

I am a bit of a Pollyanna. I'll admit that. Something about this hire feels different. Maybe it was the speeches yesterday or the comments from the Clemson game idk. This game is all about results so the proof is in the pudding but I'm excited about the program again and I wasn't sure if that was possible after the past decade.

Is there a link?

I agree!

Weird, 2 penalties backed us up to inside the 10 on the second one but neither were one was on Joel (he is #25 right?). In fact he is nowhere to be seen if that is his number and the guys making the tackles were not just running free.

Perfect, thanks!

Yea is was a missed block for sure. I was just wildly curious for some reason.

If he leaves he has to buy us an IPF.

All this talk about CJL has me wondering about the play itself. I know all the aftermath (broad strokes at least) but I don't recall the play or at least the "missed block" or whatever it was.

^^^ This was what I was wondering about. I know it was a crazy year and a bunch of teams (like U California and Boston) made it to #2 that year and then fell apart. Going into the NC it was Ohio State, LSU, WVU and Missouri battling it out. WVU and Missouri had late season losses and that dropped them from contention. I think we would have been jumped by LSU (Ohio State was #1 most of the year including week 7 when we were #2). LSU (11–2) with wins over (#9 Virginia Tech, #12 South Carolina, #9 Florida, #18 Auburn *same as us*, #17 Alabama, #14 Tennessee). Hawaii was 12-0 with a win over a ranked Boise (17) before losing to Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Anything, interesting conversation.

Off topic but would we have played for the NC if we continued to run the table in 2007?