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MMW

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  1. I guess Puc but not just I want it. Many people want it and see the wisdom in it. It's getting built and you will hopefully change your mind. Hey man it's cool we don't see eye to eye.
  2. I left off your first paragraph because it looks like something like the Agile RICE model that I would implement at work and I don't think, humbly, that it's fit for purpose in this discussion. Every other school in the state has an OCS because they see the same thing I do. School pride and game day experience. That's the problem I'm solving with an OCS. I'm not solving the problem you're trying to solve. Second paragraph - So how is that an advantage? We're lean and able to pivot? To what exactly and how has that ever worked out for us? We are floating in a sea and don't control our own destiny. What we can control is creating a college game day experience. I strongly disagree with your last paragraph. Think about what you're saying, if we played bigger schools we would get what exactly, better attendance? So are people coming to see these bigger schools or USF? Wouldn't it be better if we created an environment where people would come to the games to see USF regardless of who they were playing? Right now we are a bad team with an anemic fan base with no history and no stadium. No power league really wants us. The old guard hated us in the Big East and couldn't get out of their fast enough . They let us into the ACC just our mere presence will kill it. So ****'em. I understand why old farts aren't coming to the games. You are trying to fix that by playing Goliath's game. I don't think that will work - in fact it hasn't worked. Either way it doesn't matter, they are building the stadium. Will you go to games in the new stadium? I hope so because you'll have a great time and possibly a change of heart on this.
  3. If it is a question of spending $350M for NIL, come guys, get real. We are among the sisters of the poor and will be outbid every time by the bigger fish. Go read David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants by Malcolm Gladwell. If not for this topic, life in general. In it he talks about how it is a losers game to fight the giants where they are strongest. I can see why a lot of folks want to shut the program down because the game is rigged. Maybe because you are playing their game. We will never be Alabama or UF from a national title perspective, but we can make it a hell of a time on gameday. I will keep going back to it is not your program - its for the students not the adults. Make it the best game day experience in the state for them. You'd be surprised what that will do for the program.
  4. Yea, I guess we are not seeing each other's points. My complaint is USF does not have an on campus stadium and doesn't provide the same college experience as other schools in the state and that is a shame. I believe that depresses the alumni fanbase. One of my points is we are looking at this as a business transaction and not an emotional one. Fans that support teams do so on an emotional basis - see current irrational meltdown as exhibit A. Is it economically better to rent? Maybe, maybe not but that is the wrong question to ask. Look at it this way, at those other colleges, you see tons of middle aged zombies returning to the campus to relive their youth. They are coming to see their team win, yes, but they are also trying to see their old stomping grounds. They are getting an added benefit what isn't something they would get by returning to Ray Jay where they also watch the Bucs. USF has made great gains academically, it has upgraded the dorms but it sterile on Saturdays when other campuses, even FIU and FAU have a carnival like atmosphere.
  5. Honestly, and I really don't want to come off sounding condescending, but have to attending games at other schools? Were you one of the lucky ones that went to the Notre Dame game for example? Have you been on a campus on game day? If you have, and this is my primary point, maybe you missed what if felt like. My kids don't follow college football much to my dismay. They go to schools with cathedrals for stadiums and they asked me if their schools were any good. They do go to the games because that is what the campus is doing. Maybe they will become raging fans yet, who knows? At the end of the day it is a student centered activity at most of these schools. Even when I go as a parent I feel like a visitor in their world which is how it should be. At Ray Jay it is the opposite, we have twisted it like all adults do into a parent or adult centric thing. Worrying about attendance and conferences and whatnot. Then wondering why we don't have a stronger alumni fanbase. I can tell you why that is, because we did not create an experience kids can be nostalgic about later in life.
  6. Miami is an $85,000/year private school so yea I skipped Miami. With their attendance woes I fail to see your point. What I learned over the past few years with three, soon to be four kids in college simultaneously is the cheapest way to attend college is to live at home and go to HCC and then jump to USF. As the dad, that was always my plan. My wife convinced me that college could be more than getting a degree, that the overall experience was part of the growth and education. Being away from home in a town focused on a college provided a certain intangible value. A school imbedded in a city was not what we were going for. If living in Miami was the goal we would have gone with FIU which has a beautiful campus and a stadium. USF has come a long way since my wife attended as an undergraduate. The new dorms are pretty slick (better than UF, FSU and UCF imo). I would say a big knock is the off campus environment is not very collegy and too close to home. UF was the school all the kids wanted to get in to. They are the top dog but as the top dog they don't give a ****. The dorms are horrible and the town is old and you get the sense that the administration has a take it or leave it vibe. FSU is freaking nice. The dorms are plentiful, big, clean and close to everything. The off campus situations is awesome. UCF was actually pretty nice but like USF (and FIU) had a limited college feel when you stepped off campus - at least as perceived from a one day tour. My daughters chose UF and my son wanted his independence so chose FSU. As parents we get to compare the schools and I have been really impressed with FSU. When the hurricane came UF told all 30,000 students to stock up in the publix across the street as the dining halls were likely to close. At the same time my son was telling me they were serving ice cream in the dorms and they would provide sandwiches in case the dining halls shut down. Isn't UF supposed to be the better school? They just seem like "take it or leave it". One last thing, Florida has a really good secondary education system. There really is something for everyone. If you struggled academically there are schools (including the CC's) for you. If you dream of graduating from UF there is a path if you are motivated.
  7. I can't believe this is still being debated. The stadium is finally happening and it should have been done in the beginning. I've toured every college in the state of Florida with my kids. UCF, FAU, FIU all have stadiums. The stadiums are on campus because it's a college activity. It matters not what some old codgers on a message board think it's for the students - which is where fans originate. My kids go to UF and FSU. I encouraged that over USF because I wanted them to have an actual college experience. The game day atmosphere where the students roll out of bed and go to the game. College kids are lazy and get this, putting the stadiums next to the freaking dorms was INTENTIONAL. FSU's stadium has bleachers and feels like a dungeon but the kids poured out of the dorms on parents day anyway. Sorry if our old fat asses need a padded seat, it's not for us. Ray Jay is a professional stadium that we sold out a handful of times, the rest of the time it looks empty, even in the good old days forget now. These kids are expected to take a bus? Drive? Your entitled to your opinion if you think an OCS is a bad idea, it matters not in the grand scheme because it's happening. I predict however that when you first set foot in the new stadium you will begrudgingly realize how mistaken you have been all along.
  8. I don't post much but I periodically check this thread to see if anything is going on. Feel like things are heating up? Also, this thread has outlived "tweets" which is crazy. They are now called "posts".
  9. Doug kept saying the SDSU guys were going to play in Sundays. If I recall SDSU had a pretty good running back. Is there delivery style similar because it sounded like Doug? I was at Rutgers when he was the head coach.
  10. Trivia question. Who was the first 1A program USF played? Bonus question 1, who was the announcer? Bonus question 2, what was some of the annoying stuff he said?
  11. Can someone explain to me how we would have won more games if we spent more money on football? Not being argumentative I just don't understand.
  12. Should the OCS have Publix subs when we play our first Big 12 game under coach Asiantii Woulard? Only if the most powerful person on campus, Athletic Director Jim Leavitt says so of course.
  13. I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I haven't the slightest interest to anybody vote for and if prefer to keep it that way. if I want to open my mind to other people's political views I'll go to a political forum. There is no shortage of those.
  14. One of the few redeeming characteristics of this board these days is it's one of the few places in the internet where people don't discuss their politics.
  15. We've come a long way from Gallagher's "Drive-Thru U" comment.
  16. I am a bit of a Pollyanna. I'll admit that. Something about this hire feels different. Maybe it was the speeches yesterday or the comments from the Clemson game idk. This game is all about results so the proof is in the pudding but I'm excited about the program again and I wasn't sure if that was possible after the past decade.
  17. Weird, 2 penalties backed us up to inside the 10 on the second one but neither were one was on Joel (he is #25 right?). In fact he is nowhere to be seen if that is his number and the guys making the tackles were not just running free.
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