Even a professional lurker like myself can't ignore how far the current program is from where we used to be. The program had it, we were right there. Take anyone on, anywhere, anytime... Take no crap attitude, then back it up. Hell we preferred to do it in their house. To have it dismantled the way it was is a tragedy.
The program will never build a bigger fan base if everyone that's graduated in the last half decade considers it a "losing program". Us old folks can't maintain this by ourselves... but oh the memories.