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Joe

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  1. 6 minutes ago, Brad said:

    Do you ever speculate?

    I can clearly remember much of the groundbreaking and certainly the OCS surprise announcement seemed reactionary to the recent expansion of B12.  Call it a false narrative, but I would bet the two were linked before I would bet they weren't.

    What do you know that would conflict with that speculation?

    It was definitely odd timing. It could go either way with it. That said, the Big 12 did express concerns over control of the venue, which USF had the Bucs and TSA assure them it would not be an issue.

  2. I think it’s a matter of when at this point. The Florida game showed some life, but Florida really played down to us as we were squeezed between 3 ranked games they’ve played.

    Even then the passing game was absolute ****. Bohanon looks lost on there. The line is awful. Whatever playmakers we have are handcuffed. The defense is atrocious.

    It’s over. Go get Scott Frost and rebuild this.

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  3. I’ve said it for 6 years. We lack the solid foundation for any coach to be successful. While not nearly as dire as FIU, administration has basically pumped money into other sports and into the wrong parts of the football program.

    It’s 2021 and we lack an indoor practice facility (I know, it going up…4 years after they finally pitched it). The program has no identity. What I mean by that is they have never embraced building a donor base. They just run a skeleton crew of people who call around and beg for money. The idea of having an online GoFundMe type fundraiser for a football facility at a school that wants to be a major player is unfathomable. The fact that they let it run for 4 years even more. (That isn’t to say other schools don’t do that, but look at the ones who do)

    You could hire Nick Saban and he would struggle to attract talent and win games.

    We ignored football and when we were in a spot to capture that magic (16-17) we didn’t run with it.

    Now we have trustees running a stadium out to hope there Big12 will notice us. It’s too late. It’s over.

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  4. 9 hours ago, MikeG said:

    USF has all of it's sports played in OCS except for football. Please tell us how you have used those game days to stroll around campus and wax prolifically about your golden years going to USF.

    What a bunch of total BS. Game day experience (read this carefully) SIX TO EIGHT TIMES A FREAKING YEAR is somehow the savior of our football team? Ridiculous.

    Take a team like Pitt --- TOP 25 rated and even a former conference mate. Did you realize they had an on campus stadium (still do possibly though now unused) but when the Steelers and city decided to build Heinz Field -- they did so as a partnership. Quite unique and even the iron gates feature BOTH logos. Hasn't stopped them from moving on from the Big East and into the ACC or having success. The difference? They have been around over a century. Like RJS-- it is also a central location that helps ALL fans get to the stadium, not just LAZY ******* COLLEGE STUDENTS who can't be bothered to roll out of bed.

    It is not essential to have an OCS - not at all. Especially living in a metropolitan area where we have options on where we can play (Old Sombrero and then RJS) versus some dumpy place like Norman OK that HAD to build aplace to play their game and started so long ago that they built the place up. All those other schools have something USF will never have-- tons of history. If you are so dead set on having an OCS-- great. But making BS statements about WHY WE NEED ONE need to stop. They are nonsense and completely refutable.

    There is a lot to unpack here. Most know on here, I’m in college athletics. I formerly worked at a school that considered bulldozing their stadium and moving to a NFL venue. (Before my time). They ultimately decided against it even though it might have made economic sense.

    The economics are there to show there is a benefit. Now, most reports deal with the absurd amounts of money being thrown into college athletics (specifically football) and the benefits the campus derives (donations in other areas). paying Nick Saban 10 mil a year is absolutely preposterous. When you look at how campus donations have increased heavily since he went to Alabama 15 years ago, it matters. It’s the same reason Willie Taggart got axed after 18 games at FSU. (Although this might not be the best example)

    The idea that basketball or other sports can serve in the same capacity is absurd. Even the most tradition rich basketball schools (Kansas Kentucky or North Carolina) use football as an primary economic driver in the form of reunions, etc. 

    That doesn’t mean they ignore other events, it just means they don’t hold as many.

    I do think the OCS could have a profound effect on the students, but a bigger effect because it will require alumni to return for the game (should they choose to attend, lol)

    You can argue otherwise. That’s youre opinion. I think we can all agree whatever has happened to get us where we are in 2021 is a failure of admin and football ops. There is no one answer. 

    If changes aren’t made soon, it’s only going to be more difficult. 

     

  5. A few things from this thread.

    Legion Field. Probably done. The bowl game. The Magic City Classic. All that jazz is being pushed to UAB’s new stadium.

    Chairback seating. No brainer it will happen. It won’t be the whole stadium, but it will be in plenty of areas. So many schools are converting premium seats from Bleachers to Chairbacks. FSU already has and the Florida just made a similar announcement.

    Necessity. The debate for 10-15 years. During that time we’ve seen teams with off campus stadiums or their own stadiums slowly dwindle. Is it necessary? Financially, no. That said, this program is about as dead as you can get. Admin spent years pointing to Raymond James and neglecting the changing landscape of college football. It’s 2021 in Florida and we still lack an indoor practice facility. The trustees watched as the Big 12 grabbed UCF and panicked, undoubtedly. That said, there is that hope that the Big 12 goes bigger. If we’re serious about wanting to be in that discussion we need something more than pointing to the size of our TV market, because that’s what the SunBelt just used as their dynamic in expansion…the Big 12 relied on the  strength and life of their programs as an added qualifier.

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  6. 33 minutes ago, bullsmeanbusiness said:

    Even though it was a poor Temple team, I liked what I saw on both sides of the ball. If USF continues to play like they did this past weekend, I think 5 or 6 wins is possible. My outlook is 5-7  on the season, with remaining wins being: ECU, Tulane,  & C. Houston is the last possible win given how they played against ECU. 

    Don’t do this to yourself. Saturday was a great push in the right direction that we all needed. This team will struggle to win 2 more. We’re not beating Houston. If UCF has Gabriel that’s a tough go too. I do think Tulane and ECU are very winnable if we play like we did Saturday and against BYU. 

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  7. 3 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

    Of course if we went for it both times and failed (which was most probable) everyone would ***** that we got blown out 56 to 20 (which again was most probable with their offense). 

    Yeah. I said yesterday, I questioned the move to punt, but I think he was stopping things from blowing up. 

  8. Just now, Triple B said:

    One area that I think bears recognizing is that in 2 games, we've only given up 2 sacks. The NCSU one was because of a bad snap and I don't recall the one yesterday although I remember a bad exchange but not sure that resulted in the sack.

    It’s hard when your QBs are firing passes off or dumping down before routes develop. That’s part of our problem. Im excited for Timmy, but he’s very raw. 

  9. 11 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

    None of those DLine guys are from CJS. Yes we are undersized and bad tackling adds to the equation. The defense did better in second half but still UF got almost 300 yds in offense. Most where on big plays which we need to cut out.

    BYU and SMU on the road we will be underdogs 

    The lines were the most glaring difference to me too. UF going with Jones over Richardson (I was there my my UF family) is insanely puzzling. They start or play Richardson more we probably are not having this thread

  10. 1 minute ago, bullsmeanbusiness said:

    Honestly, optimistic baring the coaching staff giving up on this team in the 4th. Take away the God awful second qtr, this is a 1 point game. I don't know what happened to the Oline and D in the second qtr, but they definitely looked like an improved unit in the 1st qtr and second half. If Timmy is not the starter for the remainder of the season, this coaching staff needs to be axed, because regardless of the freshman mistakes he made last week, when Timmy comes in this O has a different feel to it.

    You don’t think that 2nd Quarter is why they took their foot off the gas? 
    We played better than I thought we would, but we’re not a very good team. 

    Florida look like a team in the second half that was trying to get The clock run out before playing the number one team in the country next week. 

    They were taking us to the house.

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  11. 15 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

    I honestly don't feel too awful (I did after the 1st half though). I was ready to burn all my USF stuff but not anymore.

    The fight we gave the 2nd half and McClain's play gives me hope for the rest of the year and the easier portion of our schedule. Also the fact that he's only a true freshman, this guy could end up being one of our greats if he continues to develop correctly.

    Just wish Scott had taken a little more chances on 4th downs when we had momentum.

    Thoughts?

    I think this board is so used to being ****** we can’t wrap our mind about how badly UF pulled the plug in that second half. 

    The biggest evidence of that came from our own coach when he punted on the 50 at 4th and 8 down 3 scores. Also Mullen taking Richardson out to get Jones goal line reps that led to no score. (I did find the boos funny)

    I still am not convinced we win more than 3 this year. This team has a potential star in McClain. We need a lot of help on both lines. Skill positions looked good too.

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