All of this is now null and void as they've added the 12th game.  ;D Dawg, I am as big of a Gator fan as you will ever find, and I can tell you that I do not consider UF in the category of "Historically Elite".  Have they been good in cycles, yes.  60s were a golden time for UF athletics... Doug Dickey coached in the 70s so that era was a waste of talent and the 80s were a combination of both.  The 90s were the glory years. College football is cyclical.  Look at college football right now, many of the historically elite teams are not very good.  UNL, ND, Penn State and Alabama.  OU would be on my HE list... but before Stoops they had a down time of 7 years or so with Gary Gibbs and Schnelly coaching there.  Michigan was going 7-4 for a few years before 1997. USC was AWFUL for a bunch of years before Caroll. I think the Dawg in your name is for Cleveland, but if it is for UGA, where do you put them in the historically elite?  They have 1 national championship.