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  1. 11 points
    They’re ****** UCiF. They’re always mad. That’s what they do in Mickey Mouse town.
  2. 11 points
    We are building a wall between us and Orlando and UCF is going to pay for it!!
  3. 9 points
    Here's my plan...we build an OCS, go all in, 50k seats, luxury boxes, scoreboards, the whole nine...then, strategic default. Let the bank take that **** over. They're going to have to rent it out to make back their money and we pit RJS and the new OCS against each other. We can rent our own OCS for the same price we're paying at RJS. Boom! You're welcome, Kelly.
  4. 7 points
    With all of the talk and excitement (and, if you are a petty, salty little b*tch to the east, controversy) surrounding USF's future football scheduling, I think it is important to put the new scheduling philosophy into context given the realities of our lease/stadium situation. Our lease with the Tampa Sports Authority, which went into effect for the 2017 season and runs through the 2027 season (6 years with a 5 year option), states that USF will play at least 6 home games per season at Raymond James. USF only has to pay the direct cost of game day expenses. For games where just the lower bowl is open, that runs about $200,000 per game, and I would imagine that games with the upper deck open adds another $50,000 per deck in direct expenses ($300,000 max in direct expenses). For the first 6 games, USF gets to keep all of the money generated from ticket sales (minus the lesser of 8% of the ticket price or $2.50 per ticket). For a seventh game, USF would only get 20% of net revenues after all direct expenses and licensing fees are paid by TSA. So it would appear that there is even less of a financial incentive for USF to host 7 home games in a season. USF doesn't generate any revenue from concession sales or parking, other than the parking spaces they are allocated for donors. Average attendance in 2017 was 31,400, and 2018 climbed to 38,500. Included in these numbers are non-revenue seats (students and comps), so USF probably averaged around 28,000 in actual ticket sales over the last two seasons. Assuming an average ticket cost of around $32.50, USF would generate $910,000 per game in total revenue from ticket sales. From that, they pay TSA about $200,000 for use of the stadium, and another $70,000 or so for the ticket surcharge, leaving an average net revenue of $640,000. Then you have to factor in the cost of the guarantee for the FCS opponents. That runs around $400,000 to $500,000. If USF is paying that out, then they are clearing about $200,000 from those FCS home games. Typically, against a G5 or P5 program they pay out $250,000 to cover travel costs, so for those games the net is around $400,000. In an average 6 home game season, USF likely generates around $2.2 million TOTAL for the season in net revenues from ticket sales. Given the terms of the lease, it makes more sense for USF to take a road "pay-day-game" over a 6th or 7th home game against an FCS foe or a lower-tier P5 program. For instance, the Alabama game in 2026 will pay USF $1 million. After deducting the $250,000 in travel expenses, the program will still net around $750,000. USF couldn't clear that much money even if it sold out the entire lower bowl, which we aren't able to do right now against lesser competition. The $1.9 million we are getting paid by Texas for the 2020 game is even more significant. Without a hefty ticket price increase, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for us to net $1,650,000 from any home game. Subtracting 12,500 student seats from Raymond James' capacity of roughly 66,000, leaves only 53,500 revenue generating tickets. The most we could net in that situation would be $1,350,000 or so. Assuming a sell-out against Florida and Alabama, those games will net us almost $1,000,000 more per game than we have been averaging over the past two seasons. That is without consideration to the increased revenues received by requiring the purchase of mini-game plans or season tickets in order to secure tickets for those marquee games.
  5. 5 points
    And so is laid the first brick in the path towards reconciliation and healing.
  6. 5 points
    It’d be nice if Scarlett Johansson showed me her boobs...but that didn’t happen in 2018 and I’m not betting on it for 2019, either.
  7. 5 points
    Including students we probably have 30k fans, we also have around 20k people that may show up based on circumstances and we have perhaps another 10k fans of other teams in the area or that will travel here if their team is playing. It’s always beyond annoying that our fans get chastened for attendance when they keep showing up in spite of the fact our program has given them every reason not to and yet it’s their fault that they can’t be more people. USF needs to make more fans and that’s not the fault of the consumer that’s the fault of the product. If we don’t like people not showing up we should try doing things to win over the potential consumers and winning big games is probably not the worst way to try to go about doing that. We could also play in a better conference, play better out of conference teams, win more games, play more interesting of a playbook, have an atmosphere that doesn’t pride itself on being boringly sterile, not play weekdays, not play in thousand degree heat, offer extra entertainment options or perhaps even engage potential consumers instead of blaming the only people stupid enough to continue to support what has been a terrible waste of their entertainment dollars and time for the better part of a decade.
  8. 5 points
    We are vastly superior to most colleges and universities in the U.S. by any measure you want to use.
  9. 4 points
    ANd that would probably land us 2 or 3 more 4* recruits ....
  10. 4 points
    I'm with you. Judy and Woolard are both history and we have a guy at the helm who is basically one of our own, and understands all the Leavitt did for USF. I would not be one bit surprised if they bring him back and put him in the USF Hall Of Fame. We need to... We also need to name either the stadium or the IPF after him when they're done.... because no doubt in my mind Kelly will get those done.
  11. 4 points
    We've never stopped Loving CJL.
  12. 4 points
    It would be nice to have a Throw Back "Robo-Goat" day.
  13. 4 points
    That statute expresses everything about Mr. Selmon. His love of playing football and his love of USF. There will never be another one like him.
  14. 4 points
    I love the guy much like everyone on this board, he was not only a hall of famer but an even better guy and made USF football possible. We need a statue at the stadium as well, went too early but his impact was impressive
  15. 4 points
    We miss you on the other side. Love my seats. I got UConn's Coach to respond to me when I told him that "This is a family event, watch your mouth." I also love the fact that when the refs make a call, they have to make the hand gesture to the official scorer, and I am right behind her (or him, but mostly her), so the refs are looking at me, making one call, and I am gesturing the hand signal for the correct call that they missed.
  16. 4 points
    Loved this kids film and now I love him as a person. Nothing is better than watching USF change the lives of kids like him for the the better. I hope he kills it at USF on and off the field
  17. 4 points
    Screw Casual Dan. Hate that guy. Always wearing jeans and birkenstocks to everything.
  18. 4 points
    I would LOVE to see WVU on the schedule again.
  19. 4 points
    The larger point of my post is to provide perspective. UCF needs to schedule 7 home games a season to cover the debt service on their rusty, crap-hole, at least for the next 19 years. They would actually lose money if they took a payday game, as they generate more than $750,000 in net revenues from their average home game. The cost of the debt service on their initial 30 year bonds is $4 million annually (Those bonds will be paid off in about 18 years). The total cost for us to "rent" Ray Jay per year averages out to around $1,600,000 (assuming we don't open the upper deck). That is our "all-in" cost. UCF still has to pay for staff, security, EMS, upkeep, utilities, insurance, etc. They are able to cover that, but that requires the revenue generated by parking and concessions. In 2037, things will change dramatically. They will be in a much better position than we currently are, as they will essentially own their crappy stadium and will be generating an extra $4 million in revenue by the simple fact that they won't have any more debt to service (assuming they don't incur any more stadium construction related debt). The issue for USF is that the debt service on the type of stadium they were proposing a year and a half ago would be about 4 times what UCF's currently is. I don't know how the program will be able to service a $16 million debt, but I brought that up in another post not too long ago and won't bore anyone else with those thoughts/details here.
  20. 4 points
    Clemson doesn't want a piece of us ...... we own them.
  21. 4 points
    This works on so many levels. First, it is good for our program. We don't make a lot of revenue from a typical home game, even against a bottom to middling P5 team such as Illinois or Syracuse. We will likely make almost as much money in one home game versus Bama or Florida than we would playing two against Syracuse and Illinois. You want to guarantee yourself a ticket to the game, you are going to have to pony up for season tickets or at least a 3 game plan. This will increase ticket sales across all the other games as well. Second, it undercuts UCF's argument that big name programs won't play them. When the team in the same conference as you are in 80 miles down the road is taking these deals, you can't say squat. Why would any major program consider a 1 for 1 with UCF if USF is willing to give them a 2 for 1. It really hurts UCF's scheduling philosophy. They NEED the home games to fund their program. We don't. It's as simple as that. Circumstances and context matter. If and when we do build an OCS, these types of deals will be much harder to come by and much harder to justify. So for all of those clamoring for an OCS realize that you don't necessarily get to have your cake and eat it too. Third, it generates local and national interest. If they aren't talking about you on ESPN, you are irrelevant. These types of games put us in the national spotlight and we will likely win a few of them. Fourth, it helps recruiting. Want to land a local player that's holding out for an SEC offer? Let him know he will get 4 or 5 games against SEC opponents while he is at USF. Have a player torn between UCF and USF? Ask him if he is amped for the road game at UNC or the ones in Miami, Tuscaloosa, and Gainesville. Finally, it creates excitement for the student body at the time of the games. The big game atmosphere at Ray Jay is electric. If you want the students to become lifelong Bulls football supporters you have to win them over in the 3 to 5 years that they are on campus or you've likely lost them for good. Great work VPoA Kelly!
  22. 4 points
    Luckily we have always done a great job of jamming the line and stopping power football...
  23. 4 points
  24. 4 points
    You're a Bulls fan so #2 will always hold a special place for you.
  25. 3 points
  26. 3 points
    New material, same design. Thought we were getting a custom job from Adidas this season.
  27. 3 points
    The whites are much better than the green ones.
  28. 3 points
    We are going to win by 13!! Reasons: I think we will get out early and be up by 14 at the half. Kerwin Bell is that impressive and we bulked up and added enough size and talent from the portal to stop a heavy run offense. I think Studstill will be a man on a mission in the Box. The DL is much improved and will have depth. We are good on the ends. My only concern is lb play and with Macon coming in and Greer, Broyles (sp) Lainge and Mims...hopefully the DL can keep the guards off of them Secondary: Studstill, Burnett, Lapointe and Hampton...All are capable and can tackle in space. Davis and Evans can provide relief. If Sails is eligible then Hampton will have to elevate his game and tackle better. I'm curious on Waller, Leacock and Kirby. If we start Sanders or Roberts in the secondary it will be a very long afternoon. I still think that 2 or 3 more will show up from portal.
  29. 3 points
    The USF HoF will always lack complete legitimacy until it acknowledges one of the most important figures to USF athletics. Punitive history may be all the rage out in society right now but we don't need it in the HoF.
  30. 3 points
    You never forget your first, especially if all of your others are remarkably unremarkable.
  31. 3 points
    Wisconsin is a tough out and bad match up for us, but it's still a winnable game if a few things bounce back our way. I think what Wisconsin has to do to win the game is more in their wheel house as to what they do as a program than what we have to do. They just have to play Wisconsin football and not turn it over to win. We have to stop at power run team which historically he struggle at and play disciplined football. Those are things he struggle with. With all that said it's week 1 for both teams and a turnover or two and a big special teams play and we have something to work with. To win this game we have to have a furry of scores at some point to get Wisconsin out of their comfort zone. That means splash plays outside of just the offense. Hopefully we are ready in all 3 phases of the game.
  32. 3 points
  33. 3 points
    Have you had any interaction with the Wisconsin players? That will help my betting philosophy. If they say they are going to lay down I'll take USF. If they are "ready to play" then I'll take Wisky.
  34. 3 points
    My honest opinion, they should be offering anyone who buys season tickets in the bottom bowl club access. At this point, we should be trying to do anything possible to get 40K people into the stadium.
  35. 3 points
    Enjoy https://www.theidentitytb.com/videos/usffootball-fullspringgame
  36. 3 points
    I understand and somewhat agree with UCF and their disdain for a 2 for 1 deal. However while we work to change the system we have to remain playing within the system and right now that means, hell yes, take the money and the 2 for 1 deals. Then go to their house, eat their lunch, steal their tv, drop a deuce in their master bathroom and forget to flush and cash the check.
  37. 3 points
    I think we are perhaps becoming the actual 6th best conference and even if I think the drop off from 5 is so significant and 6th place so perfectly middling that it’s a dumb thing to celebrate I am still pumped that things are looking up. Anytime we get an opportunity to play G5 teams I think it’s a victory and lately we have been getting more and more opportunities. At the very least we have a chance to show we belong and hopefully we capitalize and something comes of it. The worst that can happen is we get to be on the main stage and that in and of itself is a victory over being the best garage band not getting paid and no one knows exists.
  38. 3 points
    Realistically the AAC will have between 5-6 bowl games against the P5. The 5 tie ins if the SEC can fill 10 spots for the Gasparilla and most likely a NY6. We have definitely separated ourselves from the steerage class and are securely a second class citizen, not quite first class but at least we are not at the bottom of the ship with the rats. Positive news in my view.
  39. 3 points
    My wife just said "Happy Fathers Day". So it looks like I'll be ordering the blades since we already have a fan in the room. Edit: Glad they didn't switch to the Merrill Lynch Bull Logo.
  40. 3 points
    Thanks for posting Brad. My weekly views of TBT articles were up since they moved to a paywall...feel like I am in 1975 USSR waiting in line for toilet paper.
  41. 3 points
    I looked over the rosters from Jose's time at USF. The shift towards international players started with the 2011-12 season in my opinion (this is a judgement call on my part). Here are the win totals since then: 19, 22, 23, 27, 24, 24, 26, 19. That is 8 seasons, where the lowest win total was 19. In the 40 seasons prior, we won 19 or more games 4 times - all with Jose as the coach. (drops mic, walks off stage)
  42. 3 points
    Might need to add a couple more coaches to that, including one COACH JIM LEAVITT.
  43. 3 points
    I think we can have the best of both worlds can’t we? Let’s beat UF and win the conference. Bam! Problem solved.
  44. 3 points
    I actually think that UCF stuck it in and broke it off. Alabama hasn't played an away game in thirty years (neutral site excepted). They are so pissed at UCF that they break a thirty year tradition just to sign with UCF's rival? Now, who in the SEC is going to go against Saban and now schedule one and ones? They may have just lost the SEC for a while. UCF seriously overestimated their position. If they don't sign some SoS games quickly, they may well be in trouble. I don't understand pissing off the same people who you are going to approach hat in hand and ask for a seat at the table. A lot like our Big 4 bill board, a little success can go to your head. But I think their AD has done some substantial damage relationship-wise along with their fans and media. The whole P6 embarrassment, self proclaimed Natty, alienating the other coaches in your conference, only considering one and ones, and pissing off the great Saban. I am beginning to understand why they are not Preeminent over there.
  45. 3 points
  46. 3 points
    Hold on. The oldtimers here would probably love the occasional Southern Miss beatdown for paybacks in voting to keep us out of the CUSA. That p.o.'d alot of people. Probably the same people who are pissed that we didn't keep UCiF out of the AAC
  47. 3 points
  48. 3 points
    Everybody's entitled to their own opinion but I don't think putting an emphasis on graduation rates among athletes should ever lead to embarrassment ...... no matter what's happening on the field and on the court.
  49. 3 points
  50. 3 points
    This sums it up perfectly .... "At the center of the latest faux controversy drummed up by UCF folks this month ..." They're such assklowns ....
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