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23 minutes ago, Brad said:

Then you can quit now.

All the P5 teams don't garner respect even from the "elites".  No way in hell "all" non-P5 teams do.

They (P5 teams) don't need to garner respect.  They are already in the club and are sitting at the table.  Some may not have a great seat, but they are inside.  We are outside in the line waiting to get in. 

 

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56 minutes ago, Triple B said:

With the stupid stunt they're pulling do you really think anyone in the P5 should respect them?

Stupid to you.  Not to them. 

I don't think it's so much as they believe they are NC.  To me, it's more about them stepping out and making noise.  I'd like to see some other non-P5 schools step up and speak up.  Takes a lot to be a "Kapernick" and they are doing just that.

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27 minutes ago, Bausfkid said:

Takes a lot to be a "Kapernick" and they are doing just that.

i'm not sure Kap is the example the G5 wants to follow. Not diminishing his stance or his cause but I would rather avoid the blackball result. Which is why this move can be considered stupid. props to Kap for finding a calling higher than football but maybe the G5 should go a different route. Taking  2-1's with  P5 teams to get them on the schedule is a great step in the right direction, claiming a false national title is the exact opposite. 

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I'd bet the G5 would love the amount of publicity and solidarity for themselves that Kap received. 

I agree that the NC thing is sort of dumb, but it draws attention to them and indirectly the G5.  I also thought our Big 4 billboard was dumb.  

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4 minutes ago, Bausfkid said:

I'd bet the G5 would love the amount of publicity and solidarity for themselves that Kap received. 

What did all the publicity and solidarity get him? a contract? The big money in the NFL looked at his cause for justice and all the publicity said no, ill pass on that. I agree from a social stand point its great, but if your goals are football related, sticking it to the man is not going to do anything but turn the man against you. We can't get to where we want to be by turning the P5 against us and making it an "us" against "them" situation, because they will win, hands down. 

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1 hour ago, Triple B said:

With the stupid stunt they're pulling do you really think anyone in the P5 should respect them?

54 minutes ago, Bausfkid said:

Stupid to you.  Not to them. 

Exactly ... Stupid to me and most of the rest of the civilized world outside of Orange County, so why should that garner respect?

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25 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

What did all the publicity and solidarity get him? a contract? The big money in the NFL looked at his cause for justice and all the publicity said no, ill pass on that. I agree from a social stand point its great, but if your goals are football related, sticking it to the man is not going to do anything but turn the man against you. We can't get to where we want to be by turning the P5 against us and making it an "us" against "them" situation, because they will win, hands down. 

The G5 has got to make a splash and take a stand at some point or they will keep looking in at the party thru the window.  It should be an "us vs. them" mentality.  It is with them already. 

USF and UCF are top tier G5 programs and between them they can't get 60K fans to go to a game in cities that combine for >5M people.  Need to do something.  Easy to shoot ideas down, tough to be part of the solution and stand for something.

As for Kap, I didn't like his approach, but I don't think he cares.  He took a stand and the BIG money NFL is for a very elite few, which he was not.  He'll go on and have a fine life without the NFL.

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1 minute ago, Bausfkid said:

He took a stand and the BIG money NFL is for a very elite few, which he was not.  He'll go on and have a fine life without the NFL.

and we will a great football history............... In our own division. Its hilarious that you believe the P5 cares what the G5 fan base thinks or wants. They will just take their ball and all their money and tell us to kick rocks. They have the money and college football is a business. Be valuable to them, shut up and take what they give you or leave, that's the only options. 

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55 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

and we will a great football history............... In our own division. Its hilarious that you believe the P5 cares what the G5 fan base thinks or wants. They will just take their ball and all their money and tell us to kick rocks. They have the money and college football is a business. Be valuable to them, shut up and take what they give you or leave, that's the only options. 

Fans are leaving in droves in case you hadn't noticed.  At all levels in every sport. 

For the first time in my season ticket life I'm considering not renewing my USF football season tickets as is my seat mate.  My non-renewal thoughts are for lots of reasons, not just the level of inequity on the field.  Your latter option is a very real possibility for me. 

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6 minutes ago, Bausfkid said:

Fans are leaving in droves in case you hadn't noticed.  At all levels in every sport. 

For the first time in my season ticket life I'm considering not renewing my USF football season tickets as is my seat mate.  My non-renewal thoughts are for lots of reasons, not just the level of inequity on the field.  Your latter option is a very real possibility for me. 

I can’t hate you for that choice. I choose to shut up take what they give us. Let’s play their game and dominate it. I love taking 2-1’s because we get three games to prove our point the right way, by beating them on a consistent basis. Yes we travel most of time , yes it takes a long time for this to make an impact but I think it’s worth it. They have to expand at some point, let’s be the ones who shook their hands and competed with them, not the ones who called them out and claimed their titles as our own. 

IMO. 

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