Apis Bull

8 team playoff

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19 minutes ago, 79 Bull said:

It would have to be 16 or 8 teams in a playoff.  There's no way some teams get an extended season with an extra game if they don't get the bye.  The argument against a playoff has always been the extra game(s) and some teams getting a bye just extends that one more game for those that don't. 

I'd love to see an 8 game playoff with 2 G5 champions, 5 P5 champions and one other highest ranked team from any conference or independents.  Seeding is set by the final rankings after conference championship weekend.  So in a normal year when the at-large team is P5, the P5 conferences split 3/4 of the CFP pot and the G5 conferences split 1/4 of the pot.

2 G5 champs would be overkill most years. Would Temple be in the CFP playoff last year? Many years the conference champ from the second best G5 conference has 3 or 4 losses. 

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6 hours ago, Apis Bull said:

A fun, what if.  This would be the lineup if we had an 8-team playoff with the P5 champs, highest ranked G5 champ and two at-large teams (assuming highest rank in the champion right now):

8.  USF (G5 Champ) at 1.  Alabama (SEC Champ)

7.  Wisconsin (Big Ten at-large) at 2.  Clemson (ACC Champ)

6.  TCU (B12 Champ) at 3.  Penn State (Big Ten Champ)

5.  Washington (PAC12 Champ) at 4. Georgia (SEC at-large)

 

This is beautiful. And somehow, I wouldn't mind certain programs suing to make this a reality. 

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28 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

I like the 8 team playoff idea with:

  • Automatic bid for each P5 conference champion and the highest ranked G5 conference champion
  • Two at large bids

Like other posters have mentioned it make too much sense, but the NCAA could lock up TV schedule for entire Saturday (12pm, 3pm, 6pm and 9pm kickoffs).

This is the ideal; and it needs to happen (eventually)

The teams could even be seeded according to the CFP rankings

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5 hours ago, Dogma said:

Yep

A larger format playoff system has failed in every other level of college football

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Exactly why every other level plays a shorter regular season and ends before Thanksgiving. Because a 12-game regular season ending in December, followed by an expanded playoffs, would be a total failure.

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15 minutes ago, JTrue said:

Exactly why every other level plays a shorter regular season and ends before Thanksgiving. Because a 12-game regular season ending in December, followed by an expanded playoffs, would be a total failure.

To win the FCS title takes at least 4 playoff games so the teams generally play 11 regular season games and end a week before most FBS teams (some exceptions like Army Navy where it is 2 weeks). Would have to downgrade to a 11 game schedule for FBS teams (which could easily be done by eliminating the FCS opponent that most play) to add another round to the playoffs and keep FBS schools playing a similar amount of games (around 15) to the FCS schools. Could go even further and get rid of conference championship games and just seed the top 16 teams in a 4 round playoff.

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Above is my 10 team CFP of Conference champions, just like HS football win your conference to get in. Win out to earn the title. This will place an emphasis on all conference play throughout the year and furthermore it would allow for larger marquee OOC games without fear of SOS implications but as with else its too logical as it negates all the SEC/B10 gerrymandering that goes on in the AP/NCAA/ESPiN

Edit: Please note that seeding was done by 2016 Week 15 AP (final regular season)

Edited by Chem-E-BULL Reaction

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17 minutes ago, bullsfan1983 said:

To win the FCS title takes at least 4 playoff games so the teams generally play 11 regular season games and end a week before most FBS teams (some exceptions like Army Navy where it is 2 weeks). Would have to downgrade to a 11 game schedule for FBS teams (which could easily be done by eliminating the FCS opponent that most play) to add another round to the playoffs and keep FBS schools playing a similar amount of games (around 15) to the FCS schools. Could go even further and get rid of conference championship games and just seed the top 16 teams in a 4 round playoff.

And those are only some of the problems. Adding more rounds would completely destroy the other existing bowls. I'm not one of those people who thinks more bowls dilute the product and there's too many, I love the bowls because it means more football to watch. But imagine it's the second round of the playoffs and those games are going Friday night, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm on Saturday. That means every other bowl game that weekend has to go up against the playoffs or they have to play some of the bowls on Sunday against the NFL. That's a lot of missed revenue for TV and the smaller cities that run bowl games. Add to that conference championships are going to be Thanksgiving weekend? Tough weekend for traveling on short notice if the CCS host isn't predetermined, like in the AAC. Also, there are quite a few FCS teams that have even dropped down to playing 10 games to accommodate the schedule (Stony Brook, for instance).

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59 minutes ago, JTrue said:

And those are only some of the problems. Adding more rounds would completely destroy the other existing bowls. I'm not one of those people who thinks more bowls dilute the product and there's too many, I love the bowls because it means more football to watch. But imagine it's the second round of the playoffs and those games are going Friday night, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm on Saturday. That means every other bowl game that weekend has to go up against the playoffs or they have to play some of the bowls on Sunday against the NFL. That's a lot of missed revenue for TV and the smaller cities that run bowl games. Add to that conference championships are going to be Thanksgiving weekend? Tough weekend for traveling on short notice if the CCS host isn't predetermined, like in the AAC. Also, there are quite a few FCS teams that have even dropped down to playing 10 games to accommodate the schedule (Stony Brook, for instance).

There are other ways to schedule without having to play conference championships on Thanksgiving weekend. As it is there are 3 weeks between the FCS semis and the championship. Primarily because that dead period is the FBS bowl season. There is a little over a week between the 2 games in the FBS playoff. The only reason FCS ends their season so early is so they aren't competing with FBS bowl games during their playoffs. They don't need 3 weeks between playoff games.

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3 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

Like other posters have mentioned it make too much sense, but the NCAA could lock up TV schedule for entire Saturday (12pm, 3pm, 6pm and 9pm kickoffs).

No way on god's green earth would a CFP game end in 3 hours. Need 4 at a minimum. Need to sell all those ads!!

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3 hours ago, bullsfan1983 said:

2 G5 champs would be overkill most years. Would Temple be in the CFP playoff last year? Many years the conference champ from the second best G5 conference has 3 or 4 losses. 

Prolly best to allow the highest ranked G5 TEAM, rather than G5 CHAMP, in case a 12-1 team gets left out and a 7-6 team gets in...

 

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