HPbull Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 76 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/2014 Share Posted September 12, 2017 USF up to 140 from 159! UCF dropped 5 spots from 171 to 176... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) Nice jump. It's still a pile of garbage. I mean, they have Mercer above us???????? Edited September 12, 2017 by The Great 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted September 12, 2017 We're top 50 in research expenditures, top 10 in patents, and on even footing with UF and FSU as far as the state is concerned (preeminent). Yet, US News has us in a separate league essentially? GTFO of here with that trash, guys. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 487 Reputation: 54 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/30/2006 Share Posted September 12, 2017 7 hours ago, HPbull said: USF up to 140 from 159! UCF dropped 5 spots from 171 to 176... UCF is even below FIT (#151). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 hours ago, The Great 8 said: We're top 50 in research expenditures, top 10 in patents, and on even footing with UF and FSU as far as the state is concerned (preeminent). Yet, US News has us in a separate league essentially? GTFO of here with that trash, guys. Good article on Politico about how the rankings are determined. Basically the system rewards inefficiency. The schools that waste the most money get the highest ranking, and the schools that can do it better and cheaper get penalized. https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted September 12, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, charsibb said: Good article on Politico about how the rankings are determined. Basically the system rewards inefficiency. The schools that waste the most money get the highest ranking, and the schools that can do it better and cheaper get penalized. https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/ That's a good point, but USF is offsetting that with getting veterans and African Americans through school efficiently and on time. USF is still a great value and will remain so long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted September 13, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 hours ago, bullsbucsfan426 said: That's a good point, but USF is offsetting that with getting veterans and African Americans through school efficiently and on time. USF is still a great value and will remain so long term. You just said a mouthful. For US News, being a great value actually moves you DOWN the list, significantly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted September 13, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,895 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted September 13, 2017 usf did me right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted September 13, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, smazza said: usf did me right They also did me right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted September 13, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,112 Reputation: 914 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 13, 2017 22 hours ago, charsibb said: Good article on Politico about how the rankings are determined. Basically the system rewards inefficiency. The schools that waste the most money get the highest ranking, and the schools that can do it better and cheaper get penalized. https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/top-college-rankings-list-2017-us-news-investigation/ I worked for an organization that partnered with US News and their college rankings program. We basically would import their data and repackage it for monetization purposes. I had a peripheral look at how they compiled their data. They were changing rankings up until the last minute and we got many iterations leading up to the official release. We always felt that there was a lot of lobbying going on behind the scenes and the rankings would change arbitrarily and at the whim of this director or that until the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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