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Analysis: No Band-Aid fix for USF (men's) basketball


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On 1/14/2017 at 6:56 AM, brybull1970 said:

He must have done something right to take Kent State to an Elite 8 and Arkansas to two NCAA tournaments. I guess taking three different schools to the NCAA tournament must have been blind luck since clearly you think he can't coach.

I wasn't a huge CSH fan especially towards the end (oh and that "watching the paint dry" excuse for an offense) but don't ignore the facts.

he didn't get fired from Arkansas and USF because he won too much...

his conference record at Arkansas was 31-49 (.388) and his conference record at USF was 37-89 (.294)...that's why he was fired from both schools.

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23 hours ago, Triple B said:

 

Gotta think way outside the box .... and he's already on the payroll .... but he does yell at players:

TAMPA — Carrollwood Day's game against Indian Rocks Christian is exactly 38 seconds old, but Patriots coach Karim Nohra has seen enough. He races to find a substitute for freshman guard Tiasia McMillan. McMillan wasn't executing plays to Nohra's liking, and as she ran off the court, she was getting an earful.

"I ripped into her," Nohra said. "It was unacceptable what she was doing."

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He took over a young program. Really young. There are six freshmen, and five are starters. There are two sophomores, a seventh-grader and an eighth-grader ... So far, that hasn't mattered. Carrollwood Day was 16-2 entering Friday's game against Berkeley Prep

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Nohra, who has been an engineering professor at USF for 30 years

Coach Karim Nohra has led a team of five freshmen starters to the most wins in Carrollwood Day girls basketball history.

I had 2 classes with Nohra. He will not hold back, intense personality and a sense of humor. One of the most memorable and also difficult professors I had. 

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3 minutes ago, UofMemphis said:

his conference record at Arkansas was 31-49 (.388) and his conference record at USF was 37-89 (.294)...that's why he was fired from both schools.

He was fired at USF because of someone's self inflated opinion of USF basketball ...

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42 minutes ago, Triple B said:

He was fired at USF because of someone's self inflated opinion of USF basketball ...

That's your opinion. He sucked after 7 years. I wasn't calling for his head at the time, but just looking back his last two seasons were insanely bad. 

COA was clearly a poor choice after the Massiello debacle, and I certainly appreciate his runs, but he had plenty of time to build, and it wasn't anywhere near being a good program.

no one is asking for great. We're just asking for better than 6-26 in conference during years 6 and 7.

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10 hours ago, Joe said:

That's your opinion. He sucked after 7 years. I wasn't calling for his head at the time, but just looking back his last two seasons were insanely bad. 

And his 5th year was the best season in the history of the program. The next two years should probably have been better but there were some extenuating circumstances as to why they weren't. Unless you're a program with an extremely high bar, you give the coach of your best season at least 3 years to see if he can get to that point again, especially when he did it with **** for facilities and had just gotten some nice tools. He had a good nucleus of players coming back, just not a lot of experience, and we see now that a lot of those players turned out pretty well.

 

10 hours ago, Joe said:

COA was clearly a poor choice after the Massiello debacle, and I certainly appreciate his runs, but he had plenty of time to build, and it wasn't anywhere near being a good program.

no one is asking for great. We're just asking for better than 6-26 in conference during years 6 and 7.

He built up to a 2 NCAAT win year in 5 years. Unless you're under the laughable impression that USF is a place where you reload,  it was going to take time rebuild again... which he had started with classes he only had one/two year's with. Not saying he had a lifetime contract but you give a coach who PROVED he could do it here more than 2 years.

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Found it.

 

worlds-largest-band-aid-2-21-11.jpg

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11 hours ago, Triple B said:

 

He built up to a 2 NCAAT win year in 5 years.

You say that like it's impressive. Going 6-30 in conference play back-to-back seasons is PLENTY of reason to fire a coach.

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30 minutes ago, UofMemphis said:

You say that like it's impressive. Going 6-30 in conference play back-to-back seasons is PLENTY of reason to fire a coach.

Yeah I do get that. Plus Harlan wasn't thinking that Antigua would be the replacement (his third choice) and that it would end up so much worse. USF also needs to be patient with some of these guys as it's not a destination spot for men's basketball. 

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bring in musselman look where he has this program going

Nevada Wolf Pack
15-3, 1st in Mountain West

 

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Just now, bcgruber said:

bring in musselman look where he has this program going

Nevada Wolf Pack
15-3, 1st in Mountain West

 

If Nevada keeps winning (currently 15-3 after winning 24 games last season) then Musselman will be all lined up for a P5 job like LSU, Mizzou, maybe Penn State.

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