no, but everyone grows up wanting to play for a contender. hell, if urban meyer can turn a program in the middle of mormon country into a football powerhouse and win a bcs game, why cant leavitt in a football rabid state? please, dont give me that whole "they've been around longer," because utah is in a mid-major conference in a state where no one gives (or has ever given) a **** about football (compared to here, at least). this whole "we're so young" argument is getting tired. again, i reiterate-- it takes time to build tradition but it DOESNT take time to win.. and win NOW. remember, we're 10-13 in the past 2 years. we havent had a decent QB in over 5 years. PEOPLE, these are deficiencies! are we going to be using the same excuses 5 years from now? how about 10 years? at what point are you all going to come to your senses that we need a change? after another 2 years of going 10-13? after another bowl game shut out? people, at the rate we're going, this will turn into USF basketball (and we DONT want to go there). just a fun fact: ron zook had a better record than jim leavitt in playing in a D1A conference.. AND HE GOT FIRED. yet, we continue to keep CJL around. it's like we're becoming a trailer-trash abused wife in a marriage and finding excuses to stay with him [leavitt]. i, for one, will not stick around to watch our face kicked in and our fans traveling to other states for bowl games only to watch our team forget to show up.